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PostPosted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 11:44 am 
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Got mine done today - only the 2nd CRD "ever" at the dealership - came out with the check engine light on; it went back in for 5mins to reflash, no problems so far.

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Took mine in yesterday; everything seems fine although I really didn't notice a problem earlier.

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 Post subject: Took mine in today...
PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 2:13 am 
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I took my Liberty CRD into Duncan Jeep in Blacksburg, VA today for the recall. I only have 1500 miles on it so far and noticed that it had been rough when shifting at 50-60 miles per hour. I requested the following TSB's be done.

18-008-06 & 18-009-06 -- FLASH UPGRADE TO IMPROVE SHIFT POINTS

21-007-06 -- TRANSMISSION FILTERS

When I picked it up, the service fellow said that they drove it and found that the roughness at 50-60 miles per hour was normal for this vehicle (they all do it) :shock: . When stated that way, it sounds like a design defect that is not going to be attended to. I inquired further indicating that if there was a filter issue with the transmission manufactured the date that mine was, wouldn't it be better to prevent the failure than wait for it. He said he can only do the TSB if the failure code shows in the diagnostic :( .

I had taken the unit in earlier because the shifter for 2-wheel, Part-time, and 4-wheel drive was unusually difficult to get into gear. The mechanic struggled with it and announced that they are all like this -- perhaps there is a pattern here :roll: .

While really like my CRD, I'm disappointed with DC's position on the TSB's. I'm more concerned with the long-term implications of running a vehicle that is destine to have a costly problem because the wrong filters on the transmission were fitted. This seems to come under the Uniform Commercial Code (UCC) section 2 for sale of products and particularly where known defects are cited. Has anyone explored this path with getting some remedy with DC?

Cheers,
Shawn

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 Post subject: Re: Took mine in today...
PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 6:29 am 
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sbohner wrote:
I took my Liberty CRD into Duncan Jeep in Blacksburg, VA today for the recall. I only have 1500 miles on it so far and noticed that it had been rough when shifting at 50-60 miles per hour. I requested the following TSB's be done.

18-008-06 & 18-009-06 -- FLASH UPGRADE TO IMPROVE SHIFT POINTS

21-007-06 -- TRANSMISSION FILTERS

When I picked it up, the service fellow said that they drove it and found that the roughness at 50-60 miles per hour was normal for this vehicle (they all do it) :shock: . When stated that way, it sounds like a design defect that is not going to be attended to. I inquired further indicating that if there was a filter issue with the transmission manufactured the date that mine was, wouldn't it be better to prevent the failure than wait for it. He said he can only do the TSB if the failure code shows in the diagnostic :( .

I had taken the unit in earlier because the shifter for 2-wheel, Part-time, and 4-wheel drive was unusually difficult to get into gear. The mechanic struggled with it and announced that they are all like this -- perhaps there is a pattern here :roll: .

While really like my CRD, I'm disappointed with DC's position on the TSB's. I'm more concerned with the long-term implications of running a vehicle that is destine to have a costly problem because the wrong filters on the transmission were fitted. This seems to come under the Uniform Commercial Code (UCC) section 2 for sale of products and particularly where known defects are cited. Has anyone explored this path with getting some remedy with DC?

Cheers,
Shawn


Shawn - sounds like your experience mirrors mine exactly. Picked mine up just one month ago. Being an engineer, I like to try to fix problems before they show themselves, but my dealer gave me the same story - no symptoms to tsb. I had another experience two days after picking it up, where when backing out of my garage first thing in the morning, the rear brakes would lock up solid... took it in, and the service manager told me: "Liberty? - yup, some of em do that, there's no fix." A few minutes later after a very public phone conversation- in the showroom- with my brother (who happens to be an attourney) the general manager was willing to do whatever had to be done, and somehow had found the brake pad/strap fix for the rear brakes. Still could not convince him to do the tsb. Here's the kicker, and Chrysler and I have had a call or two on this one... when they applied the brake fix, they turned my rotors, my brand new rotors! I've been a loyal DCX customer forever, but the new car thing wore off this jeep so quickly, that I would not mind dumping it right now. I'm open to anything to help resolve this easily. I love the Diesel, the rest of the KJ package is ok, but the power train is great fun.

Paul


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 Post subject: Re: Took mine in today...
PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 7:15 am 
sbohner wrote:
I took my Liberty CRD into Duncan Jeep in Blacksburg, VA today for the recall. I only have 1500 miles on it so far and noticed that it had been rough when shifting at 50-60 miles per hour. I requested the following TSB's be done.

18-008-06 & 18-009-06 -- FLASH UPGRADE TO IMPROVE SHIFT POINTS

21-007-06 -- TRANSMISSION FILTERS

When I picked it up, the service fellow said that they drove it and found that the roughness at 50-60 miles per hour was normal for this vehicle (they all do it) :shock: . When stated that way, it sounds like a design defect that is not going to be attended to. I inquired further indicating that if there was a filter issue with the transmission manufactured the date that mine was, wouldn't it be better to prevent the failure than wait for it. He said he can only do the TSB if the failure code shows in the diagnostic :( .

I had taken the unit in earlier because the shifter for 2-wheel, Part-time, and 4-wheel drive was unusually difficult to get into gear. The mechanic struggled with it and announced that they are all like this -- perhaps there is a pattern here :roll: .

While really like my CRD, I'm disappointed with DC's position on the TSB's. I'm more concerned with the long-term implications of running a vehicle that is destine to have a costly problem because the wrong filters on the transmission were fitted. This seems to come under the Uniform Commercial Code (UCC) section 2 for sale of products and particularly where known defects are cited. Has anyone explored this path with getting some remedy with DC?

Cheers,
Shawn


You really need to call as many dealers ahead of time as possible to see if any of them will even consider doing the reflash and/or filter TSB. You may not fall into the category (transmission build date) for the transmission filter TSB - which would be good because less people messing with your Jeep.

You need to get a print out of the reflash TSB and show it to the service writer and show that it clearly states to "perform the TSB when vehicle is in for service." The catch here is that it must be in for some kind of service. That could be them taking it for a test drive for the mysterious shudder and then, by the way, please perform the reflash (you only need 18-008-06 as yours is an '06 model).

At least Chrysler has this information available. My 2004 Toyota Sienna transmission shifts like crap, they all do(2004 thru current 2006), and there is no information or attempted fix available.

Even worse, my 2004 Honda Element (traded in for this) had the entire front end crack open and leak power steering fluid and transmission fluid at only 500 miles. So bad things happen to all model vehicles - but the foreign car makers are VERY good at keeping failure information private.


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 Post subject: Re: Took mine in today...
PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 9:56 am 
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modelaford wrote:
sbohner wrote:
I took my Liberty CRD into Duncan Jeep in Blacksburg, VA today for the recall. I only have 1500 miles on it so far and noticed that it had been rough when shifting at 50-60 miles per hour. I requested the following TSB's be done.

18-008-06 & 18-009-06 -- FLASH UPGRADE TO IMPROVE SHIFT POINTS

21-007-06 -- TRANSMISSION FILTERS

When I picked it up, the service fellow said that they drove it and found that the roughness at 50-60 miles per hour was normal for this vehicle (they all do it) :shock: . When stated that way, it sounds like a design defect that is not going to be attended to. I inquired further indicating that if there was a filter issue with the transmission manufactured the date that mine was, wouldn't it be better to prevent the failure than wait for it. He said he can only do the TSB if the failure code shows in the diagnostic :( .

I had taken the unit in earlier because the shifter for 2-wheel, Part-time, and 4-wheel drive was unusually difficult to get into gear. The mechanic struggled with it and announced that they are all like this -- perhaps there is a pattern here :roll: .

While really like my CRD, I'm disappointed with DC's position on the TSB's. I'm more concerned with the long-term implications of running a vehicle that is destine to have a costly problem because the wrong filters on the transmission were fitted. This seems to come under the Uniform Commercial Code (UCC) section 2 for sale of products and particularly where known defects are cited. Has anyone explored this path with getting some remedy with DC?

Cheers,
Shawn


Shawn - sounds like your experience mirrors mine exactly. Picked mine up just one month ago. Being an engineer, I like to try to fix problems before they show themselves, but my dealer gave me the same story - no symptoms to tsb. I had another experience two days after picking it up, where when backing out of my garage first thing in the morning, the rear brakes would lock up solid... took it in, and the service manager told me: "Liberty? - yup, some of em do that, there's no fix." A few minutes later after a very public phone conversation- in the showroom- with my brother (who happens to be an attourney) the general manager was willing to do whatever had to be done, and somehow had found the brake pad/strap fix for the rear brakes. Still could not convince him to do the tsb. Here's the kicker, and Chrysler and I have had a call or two on this one... when they applied the brake fix, they turned my rotors, my brand new rotors! I've been a loyal DCX customer forever, but the new car thing wore off this jeep so quickly, that I would not mind dumping it right now. I'm open to anything to help resolve this easily. I love the Diesel, the rest of the KJ package is ok, but the power train is great fun.

Paul

Going through the same problem with mine right now. On the UCC question, this is very possible. My lawyer has the stack of TSB's for this model. Told me Jeep will repair this (if they are smart) or it will get very expensive for them. And for Modelaford, the new wore off my CRD about the time it staring blowing oil like a 15yr old beater. If this thing goes bye-bye after I meet with DC next week, I won't cry too long.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 9:31 am 
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Eventhough I got the BCM update recall letter, and checked using my VIN on the Jeep website, the service tech. said my BCM was already up to date. My Jeep was built in Feb. 2006.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 10:53 am 
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Mine was built after yours and needed to be done. Unless it is a hit and miss vin's I would say you need it.

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