I'm thinking about selling my CRD. Talk me out of it.

gt40freak · **Joined:** Fri May 07, 2010 5:54 pm **Posts:** 76

I am having injector problems whitch is being discused in this thread.
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Most people post threads when they're having problems with their Jeep. Since my CRD has almost 160k on it & has not had the rockers replaced, I am leary of keeping it much longer. I want to hear (if there are any) good stories of your CRD's with high miles still going strong. I would like to keep it but i just dont want it to be a money pit.

I have even gone to the trouble of starting to write the ad for it.

I have for sale a 06 Jeep Liberty CRD. We are the second owners & have had it since 2007.

Extras include:
Optima AGM yellow top deep cycle/starting battery

LED Dome lights

ARB front bull bar bumper
Custom storage box in bumper with:
Chrome block heater plug with lid.
Reciever hitch for mounting winch or other 2" accessories.
Tensioning bolts to hold reciever tight
175 amp 12 volt plug to power a winch or other accessories
(I also made a set of jumper cables to plug in here, I will include)

Roof rack:
4 front facing 55 watt halogen offroad lights
5 LED flood lights facing all directions that can be:
on with the dome lights, always off or switch on & off independant from the dome light. I have left them on all night & it started up the next morning.
All wiring for the lights connects to vehicle with a trailer plug to be able to remove rack easily.
CB antenna that can be folded flat.

Front sway bar disconnects.

3" Magnaflow muffler

Kennedy fuel lift pump installed on frame for easy serviceability.

Timing belt serviced at 143,000 miles including:
New Gates belt
New Graf water pump has metal impeller OEM is plastic
New tensioner
New idler pulleys
All new gaskets on the timing cover
Intercooler was cleaned & pressure tested for leaks
Radiator was cleaned
EGR delete kit installed

Alternator was replaced at about 125,000 miles
I still have the original. It only needs a new pulley.

TKB4 · **Posted:** Mon Jun 05, 2017 1:46 am

I saw your post on another thread about needing injectors. Do you know for sure that is the problem? If you need one or more to make a diagnosis instead of buying some just to find out I may be able to help. You may PM me.

Kelly

flash7210 · **Posted:** Mon Jun 05, 2017 8:00 am

Just bite the bullet and replace the rockers. Then you wont have to worry about them any more.

You've already got a lot of time and money into it with accessories and stuff. If you sell it, you will never get back what you've already put into it.

geordi · **Posted:** Mon Jun 05, 2017 8:18 am

With all those mods to make it yours... Why would you let something like the rockers (and valves if you are feeling adventurous) stop you?

The rockers don't fail on their own, if you have already deleted the EGR (even with a GDE tune which doesn't completely eliminate the problem b/c the valve itself is not guaranteed to seal when closed)... Then that stops most of the damaging soot from getting into the intake and scratching up the rockers anyway. If you measure the MAF airflow and it is over 15 (I think the scale is mg/stroke) then they are good. Anything over 17 is great. If yours comes up with numbers like that, then there isn't anything to worry about for now and you can budget for the rockers and valves together at some point.

Don't forget: People that are happily out driving their CRD aren't posting on the forums b/c they aren't having problems. I know we tend to get hypersensitive about every little thing. The trick is to remember the possible symptoms and not panic until we notice one of those. Otherwise - just enjoy your truck, it's paid off! (hopefully)

gt40freak · **Joined:** Fri May 07, 2010 5:54 pm **Posts:** 76

geordi wrote:

With all those mods to make it yours... Why would you let something like the rockers (and valves if you are feeling adventurous) stop you?

The rockers don't fail on their own, if you have already deleted the EGR (even with a GDE tune which doesn't completely eliminate the problem b/c the valve itself is not guaranteed to seal when closed)... Then that stops most of the damaging soot from getting into the intake and scratching up the rockers anyway. If you measure the MAF airflow and it is over 15 (I think the scale is mg/stroke) then they are good. Anything over 17 is great. If yours comes up with numbers like that, then there isn't anything to worry about for now and you can budget for the rockers and valves together at some point.

Don't forget: People that are happily out driving their CRD aren't posting on the forums b/c they aren't having problems. I know we tend to get hypersensitive about every little thing. The trick is to remember the possible symptoms and not panic until we notice one of those. Otherwise - just enjoy your truck, it's paid off! (hopefully)

I ran the ORM for most of its life. I only fully deleted the EGR 17k ago. My MAF reading is around 12-14. Would a bad injector cause it to be that low or do I definatly have a rocker issue. I would like to keep technical discussion on the other thread though. That way this thread can stay focused on the pros & cons of a high mileage CRD.

mass-hole · **Posted:** Mon Jun 05, 2017 1:29 pm

gt40freak wrote:

geordi wrote:

With all those mods to make it yours... Why would you let something like the rockers (and valves if you are feeling adventurous) stop you?

The rockers don't fail on their own, if you have already deleted the EGR (even with a GDE tune which doesn't completely eliminate the problem b/c the valve itself is not guaranteed to seal when closed)... Then that stops most of the damaging soot from getting into the intake and scratching up the rockers anyway. If you measure the MAF airflow and it is over 15 (I think the scale is mg/stroke) then they are good. Anything over 17 is great. If yours comes up with numbers like that, then there isn't anything to worry about for now and you can budget for the rockers and valves together at some point.

Don't forget: People that are happily out driving their CRD aren't posting on the forums b/c they aren't having problems. I know we tend to get hypersensitive about every little thing. The trick is to remember the possible symptoms and not panic until we notice one of those. Otherwise - just enjoy your truck, it's paid off! (hopefully)

I ran the ORM for most of its life. I only fully deleted the EGR 17k ago. My MAF reading is around 12-14. Would a bad injector cause it to be that low or do I definatly have a rocker issue. I would like to keep technical discussion on the other thread though. That way this thread can stay focused on the pros & cons of a high mileage CRD.

Where do you live? Depending on elevation and air pressure the MAF number will not be exact. I see 12.5-12.8 grams/second when mine is hot and idling here at 6500'. This number did not change after changing my rocker arms this fall with 93,000 miles.

gt40freak · **Joined:** Fri May 07, 2010 5:54 pm **Posts:** 76

mass-hole wrote:

gt40freak wrote:

geordi wrote:

With all those mods to make it yours... Why would you let something like the rockers (and valves if you are feeling adventurous) stop you?

The rockers don't fail on their own, if you have already deleted the EGR (even with a GDE tune which doesn't completely eliminate the problem b/c the valve itself is not guaranteed to seal when closed)... Then that stops most of the damaging soot from getting into the intake and scratching up the rockers anyway. If you measure the MAF airflow and it is over 15 (I think the scale is mg/stroke) then they are good. Anything over 17 is great. If yours comes up with numbers like that, then there isn't anything to worry about for now and you can budget for the rockers and valves together at some point.

Don't forget: People that are happily out driving their CRD aren't posting on the forums b/c they aren't having problems. I know we tend to get hypersensitive about every little thing. The trick is to remember the possible symptoms and not panic until we notice one of those. Otherwise - just enjoy your truck, it's paid off! (hopefully)

I ran the ORM for most of its life. I only fully deleted the EGR 17k ago. My MAF reading is around 12-14. Would a bad injector cause it to be that low or do I definatly have a rocker issue. I would like to keep technical discussion on the other thread though. That way this thread can stay focused on the pros & cons of a high mileage CRD.

Where do you live? Depending on elevation and air pressure the MAF number will not be exact. I see 12.5-12.8 grams/second when mine is hot and idling here at 6500'. This number did not change after changing my rocker arms this fall with 93,000 miles.

Missouri at about 900 ft

PANHEAD · **Joined:** Thu Feb 26, 2015 7:26 pm **Posts:** 63

With 175K on mine and similar add ons, I had a suspicious head gasket, thought about selling but.....pulled head, new rockers & exhaust valves, timing, water pump etc, I figured after having pretty much every problem posted over the years plus 5K in add ons I might as well keep it for the apocalypse!
It is running great, ride is great, killer stereo, still looks great, looking forward to hitting 300K>>

I'm thinking about selling my CRD. Talk me out of it.

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