use ESP in the rain?

hardhittinz · **Joined:** Tue Jul 03, 2007 10:44 pm **Posts:** 195

it has been rainin here the last few days and im back to runnin the stock good year st's cause my wife blew my bfg a/t's so would it be wise to turn the esp on while drivin in the rain with those crappy tires?

mrkake · **Posted:** Mon May 04, 2009 3:11 pm

I would. Just remember that it will take over your throttle too. So if you are trying to dart through and intersection real quick, it might let off the gas for a second if you lose traction. Still, safer than without all in all. It depends on how much tread is left on the stock tires too. If there is plenty left to channel the water out then you are fine with it off. You yea, and if you are doing highway driving, I would turn it off too. It really only helps in city type scenarios (IMO).

JL Rockies · **Posted:** Mon May 04, 2009 9:33 pm

You can't turn the ESP off so I guess it's safe to say you can't turn it on either.

hardhittinz · **Joined:** Tue Jul 03, 2007 10:44 pm **Posts:** 195

o really? well whats the switch for on the colum?

tjkj2002 · **Posted:** Mon May 04, 2009 10:26 pm

hardhittinz wrote:

o really? well whats the switch for on the colum?

You can not 100% turn off ESP in a KJ/KK without pulling the ABS fuse.

MTB_TDI · **Posted:** Tue May 05, 2009 8:40 am

[/quote]You can not 100% turn off ESP in a KJ/KK without pulling the ABS fuse.[/quote]
What he said.

Guest · **Posted:** Tue May 05, 2009 12:01 pm

hardhittinz wrote:

it has been rainin here the last few days and im back to runnin the stock good year st's cause my wife blew my bfg a/t's so would it be wise to turn the esp on while drivin in the rain with those crappy tires?

thats what esp is for. It minimizes wheel spin in slippery conditions. In theory it keeps your tires within its traction limits. Although you could still drive like an idiot and then it will not help you... :roll:

hardhittinz · **Joined:** Tue Jul 03, 2007 10:44 pm **Posts:** 195

ok gotcha so go ahead and use in when wet out, i drove an hour the other day in rain with it on and with the crappy st's it was a good ride

tomsjeep · **Posted:** Fri May 08, 2009 6:13 am

You mean that switch on the dash actually does something?
When I first got my Libby, I pushed that button several times trying to see if it did something... then I couldn't decide if "on" was on or off, so I ignored it.
As for odd behavior, it's no worse than having my LS rear do hinky things in a slick turn, so I pretty much pay no attention to it.

VoodooMann · **Posted:** Fri May 08, 2009 9:04 am

When i hit my switch it seems to be 100% off, i can do donuts, torque steer, and break the back end loos and it never seems to kick on for me. I always drive with it off, I have TCS/ESP systems of any type. the only time I've ever left it on was in the snow.

In what way is it still active if you DON'T pull the fuse?

Jeepjeepster · **Posted:** Fri May 08, 2009 9:31 am

Everyone seems to get ESP and traction control confused. ESP keeps the vehicle from sliding sideways while traction control keeps the wheels from spinning. Anti Roll Mitigation keeps it from flipping(lifting a tire) while ABS keeps tires from locking up under breaking. All of them use the ABS pump so pulling the ABS pump kills them all.

Cant remember 100% but I believe pushing the button limits the action of ESP and traction control.. It talks all about that in the owners manual..

VoodooMann · **Posted:** Fri May 08, 2009 12:53 pm

Hahaha yeah, I know that ESP, TCS, ARM etc. are all different. i hate them all. :lol:

Guest · **Posted:** Sat May 09, 2009 2:03 pm

Jeepjeepster wrote:

Everyone seems to get ESP and traction control confused. ESP keeps the vehicle from sliding sideways while traction control keeps the wheels from spinning. Anti Roll Mitigation keeps it from flipping(lifting a tire) while ABS keeps tires from locking up under breaking. All of them use the ABS pump so pulling the ABS pump kills them all.

Cant remember 100% but I believe pushing the button limits the action of ESP and traction control.. It talks all about that in the owners manual..

ohhhh, you mean he wasn't talking about ESP (extra sensory perception). :lol:

JL Rockies · **Posted:** Sat May 09, 2009 2:43 pm

hardhittinz wrote:

ok gotcha so go ahead and use in when wet out, i drove an hour the other day in rain with it on and with the crappy st's it was a good ride

Every time you start the engine, ESP is "on"

Pablo · **Joined:** Thu Feb 02, 2006 10:06 pm **Posts:** 1201

There is a wonderful thing above the glove box called an owners manual. When you look in the back, they have this fancy thing called an "index". It is really cool. Everyone should try reading it.

tjkj2002 · **Posted:** Sat May 09, 2009 9:03 pm

Pablo wrote:

There is a wonderful thing above the glove box called an owners manual. When you look in the back, they have this fancy thing called an "index". It is really cool. Everyone should try reading it.

Yeah but it seems most need a manual to tell them where the owners manual is located in a KJ :roll:

.I've read all 3 for my '02,the owners manual,warranty manual,and the offroad manual,off course I've pretty much read the whole FSM manual also(yes I'm a gearhead).

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