New Guy with Newb questions...thanks in advance

LIBAR8R · **Posted:** Fri Oct 06, 2006 9:29 am

Hey Guys,

So I'm a new guy here, and I have a 2005 Liberty Sport that I'd like to make look as mean as my Chevy that I'm selling. Anyhow, I have a few things I want to do, and I've been reading my arse off so go easy on me as I know some of these are repeat questions:

1. Lift
I've read the best spacer lifts to go with are the Daystar 2.5 or the Rev Tek 2.5". I'd like to go with a coil lift but cant afford the $500. I'm mainly just doing this for aesthetics. Will I be happy with just a spacer lift?

2. Rims/Tires
Looking at the pictures on here I'd like to keep my general wide stance look that I've had on my past two trucks. I've been looking at some 17x9's with 5" backspacing. Will this achieve the just barely outside the fender look? Or should I search for 4.5" BS? Also, I see that some sellers on ebay list an offset, what does this refer to?

3. I'd like to take off the grey molding and make it black. Including the front and rear bumper. The jeep is the sport edition, white, so I'm thinking a black and white theme with black rims(mixed with some chrome) and a tint would look sharp. Any suggestions for painting the plastic black? Some have mentioned a Line-x spray, but that seems costly.

Later mod's will include the K&N swap, maybe a nice catback, and of course a decent system. But for now, 1, 2, & 3 are my priorities.

Thanks for your help, sorry some of this is repeat but I wanted to start my own thread that accustomed to my criteria.

Jeep On!
~Josh

BTW, if you're in the market for a nice Chevy, check mine out here: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Chevrolet-Silverado-1500-LT-02-Custom-Chevy-Silverado-1500-LT-Loaded_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ13487QQhashZitem330033554730QQihZ014QQitemZ330033554730QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

Jeepin Al · **Posted:** Fri Oct 06, 2006 10:24 am

LIBAR8R wrote:

Hey Guys,

So I'm a new guy here, and I have a 2005 Liberty Sport that I'd like to make look as mean as my Chevy that I'm selling. Anyhow, I have a few things I want to do, and I've been reading my arse off so go easy on me as I know some of these are repeat questions:

1. Lift
I've read the best spacer lifts to go with are the Daystar 2.5 or the Rev Tek 2.5". I'd like to go with a coil lift but cant afford the $500. I'm mainly just doing this for aesthetics. Will I be happy with just a spacer lift?

The spacer lifts in the front do make the ride harder. I was happy with my daystar when I had it. If all you will do is some easy trails and road trips, it should be fine.

2. Rims/Tires
Looking at the pictures on here I'd like to keep my general wide stance look that I've had on my past two trucks. I've been looking at some 17x9's with 5" backspacing. Will this achieve the just barely outside the fender look? Or should I search for 4.5" BS? Also, I see that some sellers on ebay list an offset, what does this refer to?

Off set is the same as back spacing. I forget what the MOAB rims are, I think they are 5.5. % inch may not give you enough.

3. I'd like to take off the grey molding and make it black. Including the front and rear bumper. The jeep is the sport edition, white, so I'm thinking a black and white theme with black rims(mixed with some chrome) and a tint would look sharp. Any suggestions for painting the plastic black? Some have mentioned a Line-x spray, but that seems costly.

There are vinyl paints out on the market, dupicolor makes a vinyl paint.

Later mod's will include the K&N swap, maybe a nice catback, and of course a decent system. But for now, 1, 2, & 3 are my priorities.

go for it and look at the 2 whell drive section for engine mods, etc.

Thanks for your help, sorry some of this is repeat but I wanted to start my own thread that accustomed to my criteria.

Jeep On!
~Josh

BTW, if you're in the market for a nice Chevy, check mine out here: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Chevrolet-Silverado-1500-LT-02-Custom-Chevy-Silverado-1500-LT-Loaded_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ13487QQhashZitem330033554730QQihZ014QQitemZ330033554730QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW

Se7enLC · **Posted:** Fri Oct 06, 2006 10:45 am

LIBAR8R wrote:

2. Rims/Tires
Looking at the pictures on here I'd like to keep my general wide stance look that I've had on my past two trucks. I've been looking at some 17x9's with 5" backspacing. Will this achieve the just barely outside the fender look? Or should I search for 4.5" BS? Also, I see that some sellers on ebay list an offset, what does this refer to?

People have been pretty happy with the 5.0" backspacing (stock is 5.5, moab rims are 5.0). The lower the backspacing, the wider the stance, as I assume you realize. offset is the opposite, however. This page explains it pretty well:

http://www.rsracing.com/tech-wheel.html

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3. I'd like to take off the grey molding and make it black. Including the front and rear bumper. The jeep is the sport edition, white, so I'm thinking a black and white theme with black rims(mixed with some chrome) and a tint would look sharp. Any suggestions for painting the plastic black? Some have mentioned a Line-x spray, but that seems costly.

You mean apart from just rattle-canning it?

JJsTJ · **Posted:** Fri Oct 06, 2006 11:01 am

WELCOME!

Save your money from the K&N swap and put it toward the coil lift. I ran the Daystar in two different KJ's. I believe it to be better than the revTek and over time I still didn't like it any more especially when compared to my Frankenlift. It sounds like a Rustys coil lift would work fine for your situation. I don't like the K&N and I do not think it gains you anything over the good flowing stock air box other than letting in more dirt which I am sure you don't want. I speak from experience as I have a FIPK on my wifes 04 and I ran a drop-in on my 03. Only thing I have gained from the K&N's is more dirt in my intake tubes. I do not see that with a Wix drop in air filter. The FIPK filter will be changed for a dry style Amsoil air filter as soon as they make one to replace the K&N.

LIBAR8R · **Posted:** Fri Oct 06, 2006 11:02 am

So if I go with at 17x9 wheel, 5" BS, I will gain .5 inches width further out on both sides? Or do you add in the rim width to the calculation too? :?:

As far as fender paint goes, can you just use rattle can paint? Does it look good? Does it hold up to gas drips when filling up, snow, rain, salt? I thought this would have to be some sort of special paint thing...sorry, not familiar with painting.

LIBAR8R · **Posted:** Fri Oct 06, 2006 11:27 am

So I'm looking at a wheel that has a 5x4.5 (bolt/bs) with +35mm offset...what does this mean?

Skyjump136 · **Joined:** Tue Jul 05, 2005 6:50 pm **Posts:** 1633

LIBAR8R wrote:

As far as fender paint goes, can you just use rattle can paint? Does it look good? Does it hold up to gas drips when filling up, snow, rain, salt? I thought this would have to be some sort of special paint thing...sorry, not familiar with painting.

Have you considered Rhino lining? It's been done by some of the members here and looks very tough. :twisted:

LIBAR8R · **Posted:** Fri Oct 06, 2006 12:23 pm

Skyjump136 wrote:

LIBAR8R wrote:

As far as fender paint goes, can you just use rattle can paint? Does it look good? Does it hold up to gas drips when filling up, snow, rain, salt? I thought this would have to be some sort of special paint thing...sorry, not familiar with painting.

Have you considered Rhino lining? It's been done by some of the members here and looks very tough. :twisted:

Do you know where I can find a picture of that? Seems like the same thing as Line-x?

Skyjump136 · **Joined:** Tue Jul 05, 2005 6:50 pm **Posts:** 1633

Check this thread. Troy's jeep (orange one) has Rhino lining (or Line-X)...

http://www.lostjeeps.com/forum/phpBB3/vie ... ino+lining

LIBAR8R · **Posted:** Fri Oct 06, 2006 12:53 pm

Skyjump136 wrote:

Check this thread. Troy's jeep (orange one) has Rhino lining (or Line-X)...

http://www.lostjeeps.com/forum/phpBB3/vie ... ino+lining

Yeah that is one heck of a mean lookin' jeep. I read the post he did at the bottom, looks like the rhino lining doesnt stick to the gray plastic...

Se7enLC · **Posted:** Fri Oct 06, 2006 1:08 pm

LIBAR8R wrote:

So I'm looking at a wheel that has a 5x4.5 (bolt/bs) with +35mm offset...what does this mean?

If it's a +35mm offset on a 9' width wheel, that gives you a VERY high backspace, which would actually make your track width narrower than the stock wheels.

Do you have a link to the wheel you're looking at? Maybe they have their numbers wrong?

LIBAR8R · **Posted:** Fri Oct 06, 2006 1:11 pm

Se7enLC wrote:

LIBAR8R wrote:

So I'm looking at a wheel that has a 5x4.5 (bolt/bs) with +35mm offset...what does this mean?

If it's a +35mm offset on a 9' width wheel, that gives you a VERY high backspace, which would actually make your track width narrower than the stock wheels.

Do you have a link to the wheel you're looking at? Maybe they have their numbers wrong?

Here's the one's I'm considering, thanks for replying!
1. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayI ... AMEWA%3AIT

2. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/18-Chrom ... 0032783357

3. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayI ... AMEWA%3AIT

Video Guy · **Posted:** Fri Oct 06, 2006 1:23 pm

LIBAR8R wrote:

Se7enLC wrote:

LIBAR8R wrote:

So I'm looking at a wheel that has a 5x4.5 (bolt/bs) with +35mm offset...what does this mean?

If it's a +35mm offset on a 9' width wheel, that gives you a VERY high backspace, which would actually make your track width narrower than the stock wheels.

Do you have a link to the wheel you're looking at? Maybe they have their numbers wrong?

Here's the one's I'm considering, thanks for replying!
1. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayI ... AMEWA%3AIT

2. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/18-Chrom ... 0032783357

3. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayI ... AMEWA%3AIT

Man, I like the look of #3. That would be too f-in' slick on a KJ. I need to play with those in Photoshop.

spoonplugger1 · **Posted:** Fri Oct 06, 2006 1:36 pm

#3 won't fit our rigs, ALL the specs are way off.

LIBAR8R · **Posted:** Fri Oct 06, 2006 1:39 pm

Video Guy wrote:

LIBAR8R wrote:

Se7enLC wrote:

LIBAR8R wrote:

So I'm looking at a wheel that has a 5x4.5 (bolt/bs) with +35mm offset...what does this mean?

If it's a +35mm offset on a 9' width wheel, that gives you a VERY high backspace, which would actually make your track width narrower than the stock wheels.

Do you have a link to the wheel you're looking at? Maybe they have their numbers wrong?

Here's the one's I'm considering, thanks for replying!
1. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayI ... AMEWA%3AIT

2. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/18-Chrom ... 0032783357

3. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayI ... AMEWA%3AIT

Man, I like the look of #3. That would be too f-in' slick on a KJ. I need to play with those in Photoshop.

#3 is what's on my Chevy, pictured in the link above, sick rim!

LIBAR8R · **Posted:** Fri Oct 06, 2006 1:42 pm

spoonplugger1 wrote:

#3 won't fit our rigs, ALL the specs are way off.

What do I look for then if I want a wide stance? I'm mainly looking at 16's, 17's, or 18's, and I don't want the tires to be tucked under the fender all the way, it's gotta have that stance that the orange jeep boasts... please advise!

LIBAR8R · **Posted:** Fri Oct 06, 2006 1:52 pm

Check these out, this has to be close: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/16x9-Mot ... 7487QQrdZ1

LIBAR8R · **Posted:** Fri Oct 06, 2006 1:55 pm

Video Guy wrote:

Man, I like the look of #3. That would be too f-in' slick on a KJ. I need to play with those in Photoshop.

Check these, same one's in chrom and I think this might work? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Wheel-Pr ... dZViewItem

nolakj · **Posted:** Fri Oct 06, 2006 5:07 pm

LIBAR8R wrote:

Video Guy wrote:

Man, I like the look of #3. That would be too f-in' slick on a KJ. I need to play with those in Photoshop.

Check these, same one's in chrom and I think this might work? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Wheel-Pr ... dZViewItem

Those would look supa-bad. Didn't see if you planned on wheeling ht eKJ that these will be on. If so YIKES!!! Rock Rash would be preeety expensive. It'd look good tho.

spoonplugger1 · **Posted:** Fri Oct 06, 2006 6:00 pm

The orange Lib looks like it may have Rock Crawler Street Loks (Series 152). Probably the 16X8 size, which I believe have a 4.25 inch back spacing.

New Guy with Newb questions...thanks in advance

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