rear swaybar question

moose_1978 · **Posted:** Fri Nov 24, 2006 4:56 pm

I am looking to buy the rusty's rear control arms and was wondering if they are even worth buying but if I did should I put the rear sway bar back on?How will the handling be without it?Thank's

Skyjump136 · **Joined:** Tue Jul 05, 2005 6:50 pm **Posts:** 1633

Haven't been running my rear bar for about a year. I didn't notice any difference (good or bad).

OzLtd · **Posted:** Fri Nov 24, 2006 7:43 pm

As long as you still retain your front, the only difference you'll feel is the rear axle will seem to 'flow' over kurbs and gutters more freely - not to mention when out on the trails.

I never ran rear sway bars on my TJ's as they did nothing whatsoever, and just been thinking lately that i'm going to now remove the KJ's rear one for a while to see how it goes.

corwyyn · **Posted:** Fri Nov 24, 2006 10:02 pm

I removed mine last month when I installed my Daystar lift. I agree that the rear seems to 'float' over bumps/holes a bit better, it does seem just a tad looser overall.

moose_1978 · **Posted:** Fri Nov 24, 2006 10:06 pm

does anyone have the lower control arm's and if so how do you like them?

corwyyn · **Posted:** Fri Nov 24, 2006 10:08 pm

Don't have them, don't know that I really need them but I'll give it a couple more months to see how the rear-end behaves off-road.

Matt400 · **Posted:** Sat Nov 25, 2006 1:22 am

Depends on your driving style. If you take paved road corners at consistently higher than posted speeds then leave it on IMO. I think if you are going to lift, add larger tires and make it more off roadable then its also time to slow down some on the pavement, its all about compromise. I took mine off and overall like it better that way.

Big D · **Joined:** Mon Jun 05, 2006 10:08 pm **Posts:** 349

Is the articulation increased that much with the back sway bar removed?

OzLtd · **Posted:** Sat Nov 25, 2006 4:49 am

Big D wrote:

Is the articulation increased that much with the back sway bar removed?

Shocks determine your wheel travel mate not sway bars. The removed bar just (as everyone has said above) free's up your rear axle and allows it move freely over obsticals.

Matt400 · **Posted:** Sat Nov 25, 2006 3:11 pm

Big D wrote:

Is the articulation increased that much with the back sway bar removed?

If you take a look back there and visualize what happens you will see... as one side compresses up into the wheel well the bar moves up on that side and since it is a solid bar it applies an upward force also on the opposite side.

Great for reducing body roll around corners but when you want the other wheel to drop down into a hole and grab some traction it can limit that drop or force the body to tip raising the opposite front corner and loosing traction there.

Jeepjeepster · **Posted:** Sat Nov 25, 2006 3:48 pm

OzLtd wrote:

Big D wrote:

Is the articulation increased that much with the back sway bar removed?

Shocks determine your wheel travel mate not sway bars. The removed bar just (as everyone has said above) free's up your rear axle and allows it move freely over obsticals.

thats what I thought. The front is a different story b/c the sway bar is so big. The rear sway bar isnt big enough to stop the wheel from compressing or dropping. :wink:

Eddo · **Joined:** Thu Jul 07, 2005 7:01 pm **Posts:** 1214

Jeepjeepster wrote:

OzLtd wrote:

Big D wrote:

Is the articulation increased that much with the back sway bar removed?

Shocks determine your wheel travel mate not sway bars. The removed bar just (as everyone has said above) free's up your rear axle and allows it move freely over obsticals.

thats what I thought. The front is a different story b/c the sway bar is so big. The rear sway bar isnt big enough to stop the wheel from compressing or dropping. :wink:

The rear is not really what I would call a swaybar, its a stabilizer bar. It is different then what is present on TJs, ZJs, YJs and alot of other vehicles. It is not bolted to the frame in anyway and your articulation in the rear is limited by bump stops and shock lengths. The rear stabilizer bar bolts to the two control arms and helps hold the control arms together. This prevent the wandering and loose feeling some people report when removed. It does not significantly effect articulation.

The front however is different. It is bolted to the frame. Like someone suggested go look at the front. In order for one wheel to come up and the other to come down you must overcome the torsional rigidity (how hard it is to twist) of the swaybar. The articulation in the front is limited by the torsional rigidity of the swaybar.

Matt400 · **Posted:** Sat Nov 25, 2006 5:42 pm

Eddo wrote:

The rear is not really what I would call a swaybar, its a stabilizer bar. It is different then what is present on TJs, ZJs, YJs and alot of other vehicles. It is not bolted to the frame in anyway

I should have thought about that more before posting. Your right, its mounted much the same way the rear bar on my 70SS was, on the control arms only. I may just put it back on and recheck how well things pivot but I coulda swore it articulated better.

OzLtd · **Posted:** Sat Nov 25, 2006 7:35 pm

Matt400 wrote:

Eddo wrote:

but I coulda swore it articulated better.

It does !!

Just not 'more' .............

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