kjfishman wrote:
Had the Revo's on my 02. I don't recommend the Dueler Revo's. For what they cost they didn't hold up as well as I would expect . At 25k they seemed to have excessive tread wear and they were cupped so bad they would sing to you at hiway speeds. I did a 5 tire rotation and still had these problems.
As soon as I can dump the Goodyears on my 05. I may go with BFGoodrich KO's. My son inlaw had them OEM on his Chevy S10 highboy and they lasted over 50k miles.
If you want a tire that last forever and never loses wet traction the Michelin LTX M/S can't be beat. They don't cost much more than the Revo's. The only negative is they aren't that geat in mud. I had some on my 98 Cherokee that had 70k on them with ton's of tread left and performed as good as the day I put them on.
Note that the Michelin LTX are NOT superb on ice, something to think about if you live in cold areas. They did not fare well in independent testing...basically the car kept going straight in a 25 MPH soft curve. Stopping they did ok, but the curve took the LXTs out of the contest. Just a heads up. YMMV.
Out of giggles, consider a set of these. Nokian Vatiivas. Same exact tread as Revo's. $50 cheaper per tire. Aggressive square shoulder and large tread, BUUUT, proprietary siping and LOTS of it too -- I remember seeing it has more than any other AT. 60K warranty. Real good lookers on the KJ as well. Just had some put on...I live in Northern Ohio and we see the sleet, rain and deep snow for 6 months of the year with my 95% highway driving (72 mile round trip commute everyday), bad weather is a big concern for my tires.
They come from a respected tire company in Finland that started in 1939. They know snow, wet and ice and offroad to boot in Northern Europe, and these go head to head with any of the bigname ATs sold. They are relatively a "new" name around the states being they came over here in the early 90s or so. People in snow country swear by them and state they will never use anything else again...places like VT, Canada, AK for starters. Again, I have Vatiiva (means the Journey) ATs. They have a few others in their lineup that goe even further in the snow ratings. Worth a look. These Vatiiva's have the M+S rating on the tire wall too. True ATs, even though on their home site they call them a 4 season tire in their summer lineup - might be a Finish thing with the winters they see! LOL!
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The Vatiiva is a silica compound tire, which is what is used for high speed winter driving tires (think Audi) because the compound does not freeze up in very cold temperatures and is designed for high speed travel in winter in places like Northern Europe.
Also, FWIW,
the real advantage of Nokians over various AT's is the sipes go all the way through the tread and the multi-cell compound is also through 100% of the thread. Bridgestone only has the multi-cell compound for 50% of the tread, as do most of the other manufacturers. So in winters 2 and 3 and maybe 4, your Nokkians will outperform most ATs and will always be a better road tire. I think even Nokia acknowledges that the some other ATs have better winter traction
when new (Bridgestone did invent the multi-cell technology after all), but you can't sell a squishy road tire to Northern European car markets, and that is Nokian's market. I think they even have a Z rated winter tire out now.
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my jeep dealer also suggested not putting oversided tires on. they were worried about over all drivetrain issues. the inside of the tire does rub a little bit on the lower a-arm when i turn to the lock. personally i'm fine with it cuz its not bad rubbing and even offroading i dont turn to the lock that often.
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