Stretch Liberty! (errr, Patriot?)

Se7enLC · **Posted:** Fri Sep 16, 2005 10:30 am

Concept Patriot

My Jeep

Is it just me, or does it look EXACTLY like a Liberty Renegade that's been stretched?

auggy · **Posted:** Fri Sep 16, 2005 11:01 am

It looks sort of like a cross between a liberty and a commander to me

Neatus · **Posted:** Fri Sep 16, 2005 11:10 am

Looks to me that Jeep is sorry that it got rid of the Cherokee...looks like what Cherokee would have evolved to.

misterzero · **Joined:** Fri Jul 08, 2005 3:37 am **Posts:** 117

It looks like crap, is what it looks like. It looks like the Cherokee dug itself out of its grave and took a massive crap on a Liberty.

Joe Jeep Owner · **Posted:** Fri Sep 16, 2005 1:16 pm

I kind of like it, sorta. I would have to wait to see one in person before deciding I guess.

In a way it resembles the X-Terra

Is this going to be a 2006 release instead of a 2006 Liberty?

LoganSix · **Posted:** Fri Sep 16, 2005 1:49 pm

It's actualy an inch shorter all around than the Liberty. It just looks longer.
This is not a Liberty replacement.

corwyyn · **Posted:** Fri Sep 16, 2005 2:12 pm

LoganSix wrote:

It's actualy an inch shorter all around than the Liberty. It just looks longer.

Actually I would say the passenger compartment is longer because it looks like they moved the spare (inside or under, don't know). I've always thought that having the spare mounted on the rear was the best thing for off-road vehicles (that or on the roof). Having a flat on a rocky section where the spare is trapped underneath would suck, having to jack it up to get the spare, jack it up to replace the tire... But back to the point at hand, it does look like a stretched Liberty. Has anyone seen a Liberty stretch limo yet? I haven't but I'm sure it would be :shock:

kjfishman · **Posted:** Fri Sep 16, 2005 2:17 pm

Just bought an 05 CRD so I won't be in the market for at least a few years but if I were in the market and it had the CRD and Select trac it would be on the list.

LoganSix · **Posted:** Fri Sep 16, 2005 2:37 pm

corwyyn wrote:

LoganSix wrote:

It's actualy an inch shorter all around than the Liberty. It just looks longer.

Actually I would say the passenger compartment is longer because it looks like they moved the spare (inside or under, don't know).

It actually looks like they shortened the engine area, because the A pillar is closer to the front tire. This gives them a larger rear door, which means they probably could have moved up the rear seat and inch or so and give more room to the trunk area. So, you are probably right, it probably has more interior space, but it is shorter than the Liberty.

Notes from Allpar.com about the direction of Jeep
Liberty Wheelbase 104.3"
Overall Length 174.4"
Width 71.6"
Height 70.2"

Cherokee (old XJ) Wheelbase 101.4"
Overall Length 167.5"
Width 69.4"
Height 63.9"

Patriot and Compass
Both concepts have a 103.7-inch wheelbase
and are within one-half inch of each other in
overall length, which is about 173 inches.

Quote:

Soft roaders:
1. Compass
2. Liberty
3. Grand Cherokee

Off roaders:
1. Patriot
2. Wrangler
3. Commander

Calvin56 · **Joined:** Fri Jul 08, 2005 1:59 am **Posts:** 345

I sorta like the side view that Logan Six posted. I like it a lot more than I liked the Liberty body style when it first came out.

corwyyn · **Posted:** Fri Sep 16, 2005 3:00 pm

LoganSix wrote:

It actually looks like they shortened the engine area, because the A pillar is closer to the front tire.

Look more closely at the front end - the wheel flare is up against the rear of the fender but there is an additional 6-8" in fron of the flare; looks like they just relocated the flare for asthetics

looks like the front end is pretty much the same length...

LoneWolf · **Posted:** Fri Sep 16, 2005 3:30 pm

LoganSix wrote:

It actually looks like they shortened the engine area, because the A pillar is closer to the front tire. ...

It's because the Patriot is on the FWD Dodge Caliber/Jeep Compass platform (though we all keep hearing the Pat will be available in 4WD), while the Libby is a RWD platform. That's why the KJ has more space between the dash/a-pillar and the front tire.

Eddo · **Joined:** Thu Jul 07, 2005 7:01 pm **Posts:** 1214

LoganSix wrote:

overall length, which is about 173 inches.

Quote:

Soft roaders:
1. Compass
2. Liberty
3. Grand Cherokee

Off roaders:
1. Patriot
2. Wrangler
3. Commander

Interesting. I though the Patriot was going to be a the softroader too (ie no lo-range etc) And how does the Commander become the Off Roader when is is essential a stretched Grand Cherokee. And is the Liberty then going to redesigned as a soft roader.

GregB · **Posted:** Fri Sep 16, 2005 6:37 pm

Sorry guys, Patriot is no XJ ... and hardly a KJ replacement. This is a car based SUV as is the Compass, FWD with an AWD option. Patriot may get some skids and enough clearance to get itself a "TrailRated" badge. I would consider the Patriot a lower-budget introduction to Jeep. A Vue with Jeep inspiration. Not for me, but I like the styling.

As far as I can tell, rumors are still that KJ gets a redesign in 2007 as a 2008 model. I have heard little to the effect KJ is getting the ax, but I do hear rumors of a flashlight mount :wink:

ItalianBarista · **Posted:** Fri Sep 16, 2005 6:41 pm

As far as I can tell, rumors are still that KJ gets a redesign in 2007 as a 2008 model. I have heard little to the effect KJ is getting the ax, but I do hear rumors of a flashlight mount :wink:

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Does that flashlight option come with Jif or Skippy? Also, is it the creamy or the crunchy.

Yes, yes I went there.

GregB · **Posted:** Fri Sep 16, 2005 7:44 pm

Peter Freekin' Pan! ... and it's Whipped!

ItalianBarista · **Posted:** Sat Sep 17, 2005 1:57 am

Well that just made my weekend! haha I dunno about anyoen else! :-)r

Neatus · **Posted:** Sat Sep 17, 2005 9:20 am

Quote:

It looks like crap, is what it looks like. It looks like the Cherokee dug itself out of its grave and took a massive crap on a Liberty.

lol, I like your thoughts!

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