newjeep123 wrote:
Oh-oh, so now mobil one is bad, and fram filters are bad. So I guess I'll have to stop using them cause I wouldn't want to hurt my old jeep - after all it has 208,000 miles using Mobil One and Fram filters exclusively.
I used fram filters for a long time

But when you actually put one to the test the do sorta suck compared to others. Its amazing the crap some engines will put up with though, I have had plenty of vehicles go over 150K on fram filters and mobil, or pennzoil non syn. And that was with 5-7.5K oil changes after they were broke in. These will get a lot of folks by just fine, But there is better out there.
Yea, I remember the pre-internet Pennz days. I hear they spent some major bucks recently upgrading their refining process and they are supposed to OK now. I used em and got well over 100,000 miles on a Izusu p'up. Never did use any oil. Changed every 3000 miles though.