I love failing inspections!

Gris · **Posted:** Mon Jun 18, 2007 6:04 pm

Since the wedding and new house happened, I've been ona very tight budget for the Jeep. Pretty much anything more than $10 needs permission from the wife. But today was a good day... I FAILED MY INSPECTION!!!!

UBJs are shot, front brakes are almost below spec, tie-rod end ball-joint is way too loose.

End result is that I now have permission for Al's arms, powerslots, & EBC Greenstuff pads. WOOHOOO!

I don't know of any aftermarket tie-rod ends for a KJ, but I don't really think it's a part that can be substantially upgraded.

Jeepjeepster · **Posted:** Mon Jun 18, 2007 6:20 pm

You can get Moog greaseble tie-rod ends. Miah hasnt been on jeepkj in along time but he got them.. Idk where he got them either..

I popped my tie-rod ends out a couple months ago and filled them with grease. If you cannot find the greasable moogs, I believe its a good idea to fill the end s with grease before putting them on the Jeep. be sure to get an alignment after getting everything replaced.

Are the Greenstuff pads ceramic? I recommend ceramic pads for low dusting and the longevity they provide backed with excellent performance.

How many miles are on your Jeep?

Gris · **Posted:** Mon Jun 18, 2007 6:48 pm

Just under 90k miles.

Per the EBC webpage, they are Kevlar pads laced with ceramic.

Jeepjeepster · **Posted:** Mon Jun 18, 2007 6:56 pm

Sounds like they are good pads.

I cannot find the greasable moogs, but I did find THIS...

Go to Jeep, liberty, steering, then tierod's. The regular moogs are $30 a piece.. Not that bad at all.

myjeepwalks · **Posted:** Mon Jun 18, 2007 8:28 pm

Gris wrote:

Just under 90k miles.

Per the EBC webpage, they are Kevlar pads laced with ceramic.

I got them and love them. NO noise, low dust and stop great!!!

David Jr · **Posted:** Mon Jun 18, 2007 9:04 pm

Jeepjeepster wrote:

You can get Moog greaseble tie-rod ends. Miah hasnt been on jeepkj in along time but he got them.. Idk where he got them either..

I popped my tie-rod ends out a couple months ago and filled them with grease. If you cannot find the greasable moogs, I believe its a good idea to fill the end s with grease before putting them on the Jeep. be sure to get an alignment after getting everything replaced.

Are the Greenstuff pads ceramic? I recommend ceramic pads for low dusting and the longevity they provide backed with excellent performance.

How many miles are on your Jeep?

I don't recommend ceramic pads. those things will ruin your rotors. i've seen it a few times. Get the mix pads instead.

Jeepjeepster · **Posted:** Mon Jun 18, 2007 9:19 pm

David Jr wrote:

I don't recommend ceramic pads. those things will ruin your rotors. i've seen it a few times. Get the mix pads instead.

Ceramic pads come stock on libertys. :wink:

I believe the WK's also have them..

k99jk99j · **Posted:** Mon Jun 18, 2007 9:55 pm

Jeepjeepster wrote:

David Jr wrote:

I don't recommend ceramic pads. those things will ruin your rotors. i've seen it a few times. Get the mix pads instead.

Ceramic pads come stock on libertys. :wink:

I believe the WK's also have them..

that is why you never see a liberty with black wheels coated with brake dust.

myjeepwalks · **Posted:** Mon Jun 18, 2007 10:02 pm

k99jk99j wrote:

Jeepjeepster wrote:

David Jr wrote:

I don't recommend ceramic pads. those things will ruin your rotors. i've seen it a few times. Get the mix pads instead.

Ceramic pads come stock on libertys. :wink:

I believe the WK's also have them..

that is why you never see a liberty with black wheels coated with brake dust.

The last pads i used before i installed the greensfuff pads were semi metallic ones. After a week the wheels were covered in black brake dust like you wouldn't believe. The dust from the greenstuff pads seems to clean off alot easier too. I bought my libby used so i can't compare to the stock ceramic pads.

Video Guy · **Posted:** Tue Jun 19, 2007 10:29 am

Gris,

Was this a state inspection? We don't have anything like that here -- I think -- unless you register a vehicle from another state.

priell3 · **Posted:** Tue Jun 19, 2007 10:42 am

Video Guy wrote:

Gris,

Was this a state inspection? We don't have anything like that here -- I think -- unless you register a vehicle from another state.

Yes, here in PA we have annual safety and emissions inspections.

VTNomad · **Posted:** Tue Jun 19, 2007 12:15 pm

It is far easier to ask for forgiveness than it is to ask for permission.

May all your ups & downs and ins & outs happen betweent the sheets.

Blue KJ in PA · **Posted:** Tue Jun 19, 2007 1:03 pm

At least your failure was for items that could be a real problem. I have gotten gigged before when it was the lightbulb that worked fine when I dropped it off but was not working when the inspected it.

elephantrider · **Posted:** Tue Jun 19, 2007 1:21 pm

myjeepwalks wrote:

k99jk99j wrote:

Jeepjeepster wrote:

David Jr wrote:

I don't recommend ceramic pads. those things will ruin your rotors. i've seen it a few times. Get the mix pads instead.

Ceramic pads come stock on libertys. :wink:

I believe the WK's also have them..

that is why you never see a liberty with black wheels coated with brake dust.

The last pads i used before i installed the greensfuff pads were semi metallic ones. After a week the wheels were covered in black brake dust like you wouldn't believe. The dust from the greenstuff pads seems to clean off alot easier too. I bought my libby used so i can't compare to the stock ceramic pads.

are we sure that kj's come with ceramic pads ? i bought some replacement ceramic pads for the front a month or so ago.. had absolutely no brake dust before i changed, then i put the ceramic pads on, i cant keep the black dust off the rims at all.

had the brakes checked for hanging pistons and such, everything checked out fine.

Jeepjeepster · **Posted:** Tue Jun 19, 2007 5:50 pm

Ceramic pads shouldnt have dust. Thats what ceramic pads are known for..

You sure you got ceramics?

What brand and such did you get?

David Jr · **Posted:** Tue Jun 19, 2007 7:05 pm

Jeepjeepster wrote:

David Jr wrote:

I don't recommend ceramic pads. those things will ruin your rotors. i've seen it a few times. Get the mix pads instead.

Ceramic pads come stock on libertys. :wink:

I believe the WK's also have them..

WHAT!?!?! Nobody told me that :shock:

. I always assumed the factory could get their hands on special pads nobody else could get. the pads i currently have are 100% organic, and you can easily tell by looking at the rims. next time i'll use 50-50, less shedding.

In my household, we'll never use 100% ceramic.

Gris · **Posted:** Wed Jun 20, 2007 8:54 am

anyone know what the current status of Al's shop is? I ordered the arms Monday afternoon via the web-page with Paypal, but haven't heard anything back yet. I know the new folks are running it, but not sure how actively they are doing so.

Gris · **Posted:** Wed Jun 20, 2007 2:16 pm

WOOHOO!! A-Arms got to the house today!

Gris · **Posted:** Mon Jun 25, 2007 9:13 am

was a good weekend. I installed Al's arms, new Napa rotors, EBC greenstuff pads, moog greasable tie-rod ends, and got it all aligned.

Kinda pissed about the inspection now. I took of my old pads (That were "so close to failure" the mechanic didn't want me to leave) only to find out that there was at least 3/16 - 1/4" left on every pad. I figured that I already had new pads, had the thing apart, no reason not to replace them, but it could have easily gone another 10-15,000 miles before they were comprimised.

Jeepjeepster · **Posted:** Mon Jun 25, 2007 9:51 am

Where did you end up finding the greasable tie-rod ends? I knew they existed but cannot find them online.

Sucks about the pads.. They must be really anal about those or something..

How is the braking now? Has is improved any?

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