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Back in 63 the hard disks typically went in in "pacs" and each disk held about 1meg of data. When I was at the U of Arkansas in the early 70's the engineering computer(IBM 370) was upgraded to about 512K of ram(magnetic core memory) seems like it took about 5-600 square feet. Programs were entered via 80 column punch cards.
Yes the IBM 370, if I remember correctly, came out a few years after I went into the USN in the fall of 1963. I think the one we had where I was working had like I said somewhere in the 150k RAM, but the more I think about it, it may have been a lot less. The unit I decribed earlier was just the container or drive unit for the disk. It had a control unit/center that was a large desk like affair about 6 or 8 feet long where the punch cards were entered, print outs were made, and the general controls were. Also in the room was the colliater (sp) where the cards were sorted (I was it's programmer, I had replaced a guy that had electricuted hisself) and I seem to remember the cards were 88 column. However over the years since then I have had my brain rattled real hard a few times by everything from explosives to really nasty chemical fumes and I have a lot of trouble with memory.


I suspect that in 1963 the core memory was more likely to be in the range of 8-32KBytes. The early hard drives were the size of washing machines and usually had one or two spindles. A friend of mine scraped some old Honeywell equipment for gold, silver, copper and aluminum. I bought about a hundred of the disks that had been removed from the packs for scrap value (about 35 cents each) about 15 years ago and gave them away after asking my customers if they would like a free hard disk. I gave several to TU students at a talk I gave on computers, but later worried that the students might try to frisbee them about campus. I also have some core memory cards, talk about labor intensive.

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Back in the early 70's the hardware wholsale company I worked for took the great leap forward and computerized. Took up a huge room with 12" or 16" disks interchangable disks. The only room in the turn of the century building with air conditioning. It was made by Singer. There were a lot of sewing machine jokes.

Of course the guys at the local University about 1965 were busy with their IBM's with he rack mounted, wide carriage, dot mattrix, tractor feed printers printing out pictures of naked ladies 3' tall in 1's and 0's.

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Of course the guys at the local University about 1965 were busy with their IBM's with he rack mounted, wide carriage, dot mattrix, tractor feed printers printing out pictures of naked ladies 3' tall in 1's and 0's.
We had some big banners also, funny how I forgot that untill you mentioned it.

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I suspect that in 1963 the core memory was more likely to be in the range of 8-32KBytes.
You are correct, I have been saying GIG's and Mega Bytes for so many years I forgot all about KB's. :shock: My God how time has flown, no wonder some of the older people I know (65+) seem to be scared of the new moderan world. I remember when commercial jet first started flying and have flown on a new Boeing 707 jetliner, I have flown on commercial DC6 prop job. God I am getting old. :( Beat the options though. :D

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My first commercial flight was from St. Louis to Ft. Smith, AR via Ft. Leonard Wood, Springfield, MO and Harrison, AR in 1963 on a DC3. The next summer I flew a DC3 from Ft. Smith to Dallas Love Field via Paris, TX and back. One thing that sticks in my mind was the gum that was passed out before every takeoff because the cabin was not pressurized.

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Hey...old tech computers aren't an old thing. My first computer had 16k or RAM and a processor that ran at a blistering .8948 MHZ....yep..that's POINT 8948 megahertz. Less that one megaherz. I expanded it to 32k later in it's life once I outgrew saving programs to 20 minute cassette tapes. :)

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OldOldOldNavy,
My first commercial flight was from St. Louis to Ft. Smith, AR via Ft. Leonard Wood, Springfield, MO and Harrison, AR in 1963 on a DC3. The next summer I flew a DC3 from Ft. Smith to Dallas Love Field via Paris, TX and back. One thing that sticks in my mind was the gum that was passed out before every takeoff because the cabin was not pressurized.

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I never flew in a DC3 I'm sorry to say. I did get a flight in Piper Cub that a local dentist friend took me up in, back in early 70's. We took off from and landed in a field on his farm. Taking off was no big thing, but the landing was a thrill. :wink:

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