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Velociraptor · **Posted:** Tue Sep 11, 2007 7:57 pm

That front end hampering the trail-ability is possibly an illusion.

The seats are hands down more comfortable for trips.

Gas tank is moved to the middle

Tire mounted under so you can mount other stuff on the tailgate.

Window controls on the armrest

It drives WAY better

I'm going to buy one when the dealer gets the select-trac 4x4 version

tommudd · **Posted:** Tue Sep 11, 2007 8:20 pm

so the low low low front fascia is just an illusion , dont think so its that low
gas tank moved to the middle so when you crest the hill you can REALLY drag it, hope someone makes a solid skid to protect it
Tire mounted underneath so you can crawl under it when its snowing to get the tire out, plus the tire is covered in crap when you get it out
Drives way better, if you like low riders with four wheel drive to go to the C Store then sure

Tokyojoe · **Posted:** Tue Sep 11, 2007 10:24 pm

Velociraptor wrote:

That front end hampering the trail-ability is possibly an illusion.

Tire mounted under so you can mount other stuff on the tailgate.

What can you put on the tailgate? Nothing! It lifts up! Add weight to it and it won't go up or stay up.

DarbyWalters · **Posted:** Tue Sep 11, 2007 10:57 pm

Yep, they made the rear door like the Commander...no swing out gate...

I still like the KJs better...BUT...I can't wait until we get some new people here with some KKs and watch them get the headaches we all had in the beginning... :oops:

Velociraptor · **Posted:** Tue Sep 11, 2007 11:29 pm

I like it.

Change a tire? I'll call the auto club. I just need something to get me to the ski slope with my hunny bunny.

I was talking about my "Giants" magnetic sign for the Tailgate.

"low riders" Its no worse than the KJ...Sat in one yet? Put a lift on it if YOU need to.

So much negativity :lol:

hyedipin · **Joined:** Thu May 11, 2006 10:20 am **Posts:** 1667

old cherokees didn't have the KJ gate, they had mountable tire carrier there, which folded sideways and allowed the liftgate to be opened, but they looked ugly. if you are buying it for off road you are not worried about dirt, so carry it inside...

jason thompson · **Posted:** Wed Sep 12, 2007 6:48 am

2 words
Mall
Rated

MoladoGuy · **Posted:** Wed Sep 12, 2007 7:30 am

jason thompson wrote:

2 words
Mall
Rated

We went through this with the KJ in 02.

DarbyWalters · **Posted:** Wed Sep 12, 2007 9:23 am

Let's not do here...what was done elsewhere when the KJ first arrived. They are really two different vehicles in many ways...but they are all L.O.S.T. :wink:

Especially you 1jferg :idea:

If somebody says they like the KK "much better", don't take it personally. On the other hand, if someone says they like the KJ better, don't accuse them of being negative. All opinions presented without malice are welcomed.

Of course we all know that the KJ is the last Jeep made with the "J"eep in the two letter designation.

kj in a tight spot · **Posted:** Wed Sep 12, 2007 4:33 pm

Velociraptor wrote:

Change a tire? I'll call the auto club.

Glad you like the KK I could care less what others want to drive...if you wheel it bring it along, just dont try to follow me :twisted:

Do got one question though...why call the auto club to change a tire??? By the time they got there youd be drivin again...

Velociraptor · **Posted:** Wed Sep 12, 2007 7:23 pm

Mr. tight Spot,

http://www.jeep.com/en/2008/liberty/cap ... e_systems/

From what I read on the other threads concerning capability, this Select trac II seems very capable and interesting.

I'm a hand model so I don't change tires, Don't want to damage them or get my suit dirty you know. I'll drink coffee from my thermos and wait.

DarbyWalters · **Posted:** Wed Sep 12, 2007 7:30 pm

Do hand models all have an alias? It is thinly veiled...

Velociraptor · **Posted:** Wed Sep 12, 2007 7:36 pm

At last Count 137 of them ? This is the thinnest ?

DarbyWalters · **Posted:** Wed Sep 12, 2007 9:23 pm

You can just leave now

Tokyojoe · **Posted:** Wed Sep 12, 2007 9:45 pm

This is funny.

All Hail the KK and hand models.

I hope they aren't Man Hands like Seinfeld or like the Velociraptor's in your Avatar.....LOL! :lol:

kj in a tight spot · **Posted:** Thu Sep 13, 2007 2:04 am

Velociraptor wrote:

Mr. tight Spot,

http://www.jeep.com/en/2008/liberty/cap ... e_systems/

From what I read on the other threads concerning capability, this Select trac II seems very capable and interesting.

I'm a hand model so I don't change tires, Don't want to damage them or get my suit dirty you know. I'll drink coffee from my thermos and wait.

I hope that there hand model thing was a joke...???

Im sorry I dont get the postin of that link either??? Did I miss somethin? :lol:

Reflex · **Joined:** Mon Jan 29, 2007 8:48 pm **Posts:** 567

kj in a tight spot wrote:

Velociraptor wrote:

Mr. tight Spot,

http://www.jeep.com/en/2008/liberty/cap ... e_systems/

From what I read on the other threads concerning capability, this Select trac II seems very capable and interesting.

I'm a hand model so I don't change tires, Don't want to damage them or get my suit dirty you know. I'll drink coffee from my thermos and wait.

I hope that there hand model thing was a joke...???

Im sorry I dont get the postin of that link either??? Did I miss somethin? :lol:

I get the feeling that this was the latest account of someone who has been frequently banned from this forum in the past.

kj in a tight spot · **Posted:** Thu Sep 13, 2007 2:32 am

Reflex wrote:

kj in a tight spot wrote:

Velociraptor wrote:

Mr. tight Spot,

http://www.jeep.com/en/2008/liberty/cap ... e_systems/

From what I read on the other threads concerning capability, this Select trac II seems very capable and interesting.

I'm a hand model so I don't change tires, Don't want to damage them or get my suit dirty you know. I'll drink coffee from my thermos and wait.

I hope that there hand model thing was a joke...???

Im sorry I dont get the postin of that link either??? Did I miss somethin? :lol:

I get the feeling that this was the latest account of someone who has been frequently banned from this forum in the past.

One can only hope bud :lol:

Cause from these parts and back down in the south where my familys at, if a man said he didnt wanna damage his hands and get his suit dirty chagin tires and he drank coffee from a thermos and was a hand model (whatever in the hell that is :roll:

) he'd prolly be run outta town

DarbyWalters · **Posted:** Thu Sep 13, 2007 2:39 am

He and all 130+ alias names have been banned along with emails ect.

recon · **Joined:** Wed Mar 08, 2006 1:28 pm **Posts:** 90

FYI... As with my Commander the black facia part under the front bumper is designed to come off. It has four thumb screws that you make a half turn to and that part comes off. It gives you another two inches too your approach angle...and Yes it tells you about this in the owners manual. I just leave mine off for now.. FYI FYI. I want to see these KK's lifted. Lets take this market share back from Hummer (H3) I like the line up... KK, 4 Door Wrangler, Commander. At least they are giving us something fresh to play with. See ya

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