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 Post subject: Dealership installed hitch not tow package
PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 7:10 pm 
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So after close inspection and looking at photos I see my dealership installed a 4-wire hitch and not the tow package. I'm :x I told them factory accessories but they didn't listen. So besides a 7-wire hitch what other parts are included in the tow package? Is it just a transmission cooler and an another radiator fan?

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shouldalso have a power steering cooler...idk about the extra fan, but i will have to check it out....also, i think the suspension is a little stiffer with the factory tow package

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the tow package also includes electronic trailer anti-sway

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the tow package also includes electronic trailer anti-sway


is that the same as the tow button on the transmission?

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no, it keep the trans from going in to od

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this stealership is going to get an ear full. On top of this they keep tellamarketing my job try to get me to buy parts and listen to surveys. They've had to redo my paperwork 3 times and the last time they mailed me my copy in spanish :evil: I was never treated like crap from my Mazda dealership so it seems I will never buy a car from their autogroup again. (Rant off)

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There is a button on the transmission, but Electronic Trailer Sway Control System is something different.

It reduces trailer sway and improves handling in adverse towing conditions caused by crosswinds and traffic. Software monitors the vehicle’s movement relative to the driver’s intended path, then applies brake pressure to slow the vehicle and then increases the pressure on one front wheel to counteract sway induced by the trailer

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hey, did you get a full sized spare?

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The Factory Installed Towing Group includes the following:
Trailer Sway Control
Power Steering Cooler
Heavy Duty Engine Cooling
Class III Receiver Hitch
7-Pin Wiring Harness
7-to-4-Pin Wiring Adaptor


If you didn't select this option at the Factory you won't get the PS cooler, HD cooling or the software program for the e-TSC. The Hitch and a 4 pin harness are all that the dealer would install after delivery.

It's a totally different story if you did in fact order this option and not recieve it

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 10:57 am 
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Ok, since I have the Tow Package, here's what my window sticker says:

Trailer Tow Class III Group $495
Trailer Sway Control
Heavy Duty Engine Cooling
Full Size Spare Tire
Matching Spare Wheel
Class III Receiver Hitch
7-Pin Wiring Harness
7-to-4 Pin Wiring Adapter


That is a good question. If you didn't get the factory tow package, did you get a full size spare with matching rim?

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So what is the "HD cooling"? I'll probably add a power steering and tranny cooler just as added insurance. Maybe I can talk the dealer into reprogramming my ECU. As for the full size spare.... I'm pretty sure all I have is a steel rim under there, not a matching spare.

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HD cooling in the old versions included a mechanically driven fan as well as the electical fan. Works very, very well!

you can see, not clearly, the mechanical fan in the yellowish plastic. Directly in front of that is the standard e-fan
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my kk does not have a mechanical fan...my theory is either a larger capacity radiator, or a larger cooling fan.. give me a while and i will find out

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Diggerfreek wrote:
my kk does not have a mechanical fan...my theory is either a larger capacity radiator, or a larger cooling fan.. give me a while and i will find out


your the man Digger 8)

hey Digger, check out pg 367 of your owners manual. That's not our Liberty pictured... just insulting :)

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The HD cooling is a better electric fan. Radiator is the same. I dont what years they used the elec/ mnual fan combo for HD cooling but my 06 and your 08's too, will only have an electric fan and if you get the HD cooling you get a better electric fan. you can buy it at the dealer parts counter for about 180.00.


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The HD cooling is a better electric fan. Radiator is the same. I dont what years they used the elec/ mnual fan combo for HD cooling but my 06 and your 08's too, will only have an electric fan and if you get the HD cooling you get a better electric fan. you can buy it at the dealer parts counter for about 180.00.


is it bigger or just more agressive blades?

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toy4everyseason wrote:
Diggerfreek wrote:
my kk does not have a mechanical fan...my theory is either a larger capacity radiator, or a larger cooling fan.. give me a while and i will find out


your the man Digger 8)

hey Digger, check out pg 367 of your owners manual. That's not our Liberty pictured... just insulting :)


WFT!!! A nitro..so not cool..thanks for pointing that out, i didn't pick that up....now to give them a piece of my mind :D

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Diggerfreek wrote:
toy4everyseason wrote:
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my kk does not have a mechanical fan...my theory is either a larger capacity radiator, or a larger cooling fan.. give me a while and i will find out


your the man Digger 8)

hey Digger, check out pg 367 of your owners manual. That's not our Liberty pictured... just insulting :)


WFT!!! A nitro..so not cool..thanks for pointing that out, i didn't pick that up....now to give them a piece of my mind :D


Wow.....seems like they are telling you ...Nitro, KK - same thing - different badging.

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basically, except, the kk has 4lo, a 5 link rear end, skids, better dash pod if you ask me, better wheels, traction control that acts like a locker..and so on...I almost bought a nirto but fell in love with the liberty when it came out..besides, i haven't seen a nitro up on three wheels yet :twisted:

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is it bigger or just more agressive blades?


more powerful elec motor


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