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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 7:05 pm 
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im starting to think that...well they told me the end of the week..so we will see on a reply

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Showed up at my dealership today and I think I got some answers... maybe. My salesman didn't have any answers, service manager had no answers either so they took me in the shop to talk to a service tech. He stated that when he called Mopar accessories they said that if it is a program on the ECU all KKs should have it installed and active. If that is true why wouldn't they list that under standard equipment?

Oh and I got the answer to "What is HD cooling?" The tech confirmed it was a clutch type fan and a bigger shroud. I asked him if there was a difference between a manual and an automatic but he couldn't say for sure since all the ones he has installed have been on automatics. Digger I think you may have a right to be mad.
Just a thought,the stick KK's max towing is 3500lbs,auto is 5000lbs.So it would be my guess that the stick doesn't need as much for a tow package as a auto does considering the max wieght difference.So the tow package on a stick may not need the extra cooling fan due to the max towed wieght of only 3500lbs and no need to help cool a tranny cooler.To tell you the truth I haven't heard of the HD cooling in a stick KJ either,I may be wrong about that though.


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max towing on a stick is only 3500lbs? wow :shock: glad I got an automatic.

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toy4everyseason wrote:
max towing on a stick is only 3500lbs? wow :shock: glad I got an automatic.
It sure is,kinda don't need anything else except the rear hitch/wiring to tow that much.You also don't need that sway control with that wieght either.


I don't have the OE tow package(I added the hitch and wiring myself,now RL rear bumber for the hitch),no HD cooling and only added a AUX trans cooler and have no problems towing,I have towed 4000lbs+ for 1500 miles(2 trips) through the mountains and zero problems,Then again I have the 45RFE tranny too.


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toy4everyseason wrote:
max towing on a stick is only 3500lbs? wow :shock: glad I got an automatic.
It sure is,kinda don't need anything else except the rear hitch/wiring to tow that much.You also don't need that sway control with that wieght either.


I don't have the OE tow package(I added the hitch and wiring myself,now RL rear bumber for the hitch),no HD cooling and only added a AUX trans cooler and have no problems towing,I have towed 4000lbs+ for 1500 miles(2 trips) through the mountains and zero problems,Then again I have the 45RFE tranny too.


I've got no "real" tow package either, just hitch and wiring, and I've hauled countless cars on a 2 wheel dolly (heaviest being either my XJ or a guy I worked with's 88 Monte Carlo, not sure which is heavier) and never had it hiccup.

Course, the sway control being needed really depends on how your trailer's loaded (in my experiance), not so much the weight. I know even with no weight on it, a stupid 4x8 utility trailer with two different size tires will definitely wag the dog :lol:

I don't think I've really pushed the 3500 pound limit for any length of time, and I would've been happier overall with a manual trans myself if I were to buy another Liberty (KK or KJ, regardless). But the sway control on the KK is really what'd put me into that option package if/when I buy one


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