Studs in Grabber AT2's (or any other tires)

TheJawsOfDeath · **Joined:** Sun Nov 05, 2006 3:56 am **Posts:** 305

I thought I'd start a thread about this. How much of a difference do studs make for winter driving? Will driving on snow-less roads damage them? How much to pay? I just found out that my grabbers can be studded, so Im thinking about doing that this winter.

tommudd · **Posted:** Tue Nov 06, 2007 10:26 pm

If you are going to stud tires they have to be done before you run them. But if you are buying new tires then studs are great! Yes they will wear on dry roads but will still be useable when the ice comes, you can hear them hitting the pavement but its not a bad noise, I have even ran them on a 2 wheel drive all around and man would that thing stop good on ice! If you do not want to switch them out at the end of the season you can alway pop the studs out and keep on running the tires

Pote · **Posted:** Tue Nov 06, 2007 10:30 pm

and also check your local laws..they are illegal in some states. They used to be everywhere when we were young here in OH, but I don't think they are allowed now, but for a specified time frame...while they do wear on the pavement, they also chew up the roads when used in non winter situations...imagine how many cars used studs year round and the pavement was taking a battering, times thousands of cars in every season. I found this...not sure if it still holds for 2007. Its from 04.

2004 U.S. Metal Studded Tire Regulations for Passenger Cars

Below is a list of metal studded tire regulations, current as of October 2004. Listed below each state's postal abbreviations are permissions and contact information. Dates refer to the time frame during which metal studded tires may be used.

Consult state or local Department of Transportation officials if you have any doubt about legality in your area.

AL
Permitted
334.242.4371

AK
Permitted Sept. 15 - May 1
www.dps.state.ak.us

AZ
Oct. 1 - May 1
www.dps.state.az.us

AR
Nov. 15 - Apr. 15
501.618.8800

CA
Nov.1 - Apr. 30. Unless heavy storm; then may be permitted.
530.577.1001

CO
Permitted all year
303.239.4500

CT
Nov.15 - Apr. 30
860.685.8441

DE
Oct. 15 - Apr. 15
302.744.2505

DC
Permitted
202.727.1000

FL
Prohibited. Studs that do not damage the highways are permitted.
www.fhp.state.fl.us

GA
Permitted only when ice and snow are on the roads.
404.624.7000

HI
Prohibited. Metal studs allowed on Mauna Kea

ID
Oct. 1 - Apr. 30
208.884.7200

IL
Permitted only if disabled sticker or plate is displayed OR if rural letter carrier. Nov. 15 - April 1
217.782.7263

IN
Oct. 1 - May 1
317.232.8200

IA
Nov. 1 - Apr. 1
515.281.5261

KS
Nov. 1 - Apr. 1
785.296.6800

KY
Permitted
502.564.3276

LA
Permitted (Rubber)
225.925.7057

ME
Oct. 1 - Apr. 30
207.324.0613

MD
Nov. 1 - Mar. 31

MA
Nov. 1 - Apr. 30

MI
A person may operate on a highway a vehicle which has a pneumatic tire in which are inserted ice grips or tire studs if the person is a law enforcement officer operating a vehicle owned by a law enforcement agency, a person operating an ambulance, or a U.S. postal service rural carrier driving a vehicle the rural carrier owns and maintains as a prerequisite to employment in the postal service.
517.332.2521

MN
Prohibited. Nonresidents passing through and abiding home states law are permitted. Full-time nonresident students and nonresidents employed within MN are not permitted use of studded tires, regardless of vehicle registry. Rural mail carriers may use studded tires under certain conditions.
651.297.3935

MS
No restrictions. (Rubber)
601.987.1212

MO
Nov. 1 - Apr. 1

MT
Oct. 1 - May 31
406.329.1510

NE
Nov. 1 - Apr. 15
308.535.8047

NV
Oct. 1 - Apr. 30
775.888.7000

NH
Permitted
603.271.2575

NJ
Nov. 15 - Apr. 1
609.882.2000

NM
Permitted
www.nmsp.com

NY
Oct 16 - Apr. 30
716.343.2200

NC
Permitted only when ice and snow are on the roads.
704.637.0207

ND
Oct. 15 - Apr. 15
701.328.2455

OH
Nov. 1 - Apr. 15
740.695.0915

OK
Nov. 1 - Apr. 1
405.425.2285

OR
Nov. 1 - Apr. 1
503.378.3720

PA
Nov. 1 - Apr. 15
717.264.5161

RI
Nov. 15 - Apr. 1
401.444.1000

SC
Permitted if not projected more than 1/16 inch when compressed.
803.896.7920

SD
Oct. 1 - Apr. 30
605.773.3178

TN
Oct. 1 - Apr. 15
615.741.3181

TX
Only studs that will not damage the highway are permitted.
512.424.2000

UT
Oct. 15 - Mar. 31
801.965.4461

VT
Permitted
802.244.7345

VA
Oct. 15 - Apr. 15
804.674.2000

WA
Nov. 1 - Mar. 31
360.705.7863

WV
Nov. 1 - Apr. 15
304.746.2100

WI
Prohibited
608.846.8500

WY
Permitted. Studs cannot injure the highway.
307.674.8569

snowsport · **Joined:** Tue Oct 18, 2005 11:52 pm **Posts:** 1211

If you have to drive on ice, get studs. Big improvement. If you get them done on your Grabbers, let us know how you like them! There's a discussion on another thread about this.

Rush345 · **Posted:** Wed Nov 07, 2007 11:31 pm

Back in highschool a long long time ago a freind had a Plymouth Satelite Poor mans Road Runner. He had tires on the back with tire studs his favorite redneck thing was an drive pavement was to light up the tires other wise know as laying a patch with the studs at night it created a great deal of sparks that upset the local police to no end but was still fun to watch.
:shock:

jerbacher · **Posted:** Wed Nov 07, 2007 11:33 pm

tommudd wrote:

If you are going to stud tires they have to be done before you run them. But if you are buying new tires then studs are great! Yes they will wear on dry roads but will still be useable when the ice comes, you can hear them hitting the pavement but its not a bad noise, I have even ran them on a 2 wheel drive all around and man would that thing stop good on ice! If you do not want to switch them out at the end of the season you can alway pop the studs out and keep on running the tires

why do you have to get it done before you run them if you can pop them in and out seasonally? i dont understand...

tommudd · **Posted:** Wed Nov 07, 2007 11:43 pm

After you run them small pieces of dirt, sand, rocks what ever gets down in the holes, theres no way to clean that stuff out so if you stud them it will put pressure on that stuff and could cause tire failure or flats etc. Studs are like say little short nails with a head in them, thats what holds them into the holes, but anyways not approved practice to install after running them.

Oh after you take them out, if you do and you run them, then you can not install new ones again, they are a certain lenghth for certain tires depending on tread depth.

Tom

jerbacher · **Posted:** Thu Nov 08, 2007 7:43 am

gotcha! thanks.

Fulltimer · **Posted:** Thu Nov 08, 2007 7:51 am

They also help in steering.

Terry

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