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 Post subject: Thoughts on a hybrid lift
PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2008 11:03 pm 
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So I was out running today just letting random thoughts drift through my mind as the miles ticked by and one really stuck with me. I know I don't have my Liberty anymore so I can't test my theory. Back in the day when lifts first came out, everyone said you can't run a two inch coil lift and a spacer lift at the same time. Well fast forward to today. Swampthing is running that setup with seemingly no ill effects yet. But what if you wanted to do that with a little more insurance to prevent damage? Now that the Jeepin by Al 4 and 6 inch kits are available yet pricey, what if you wanted to run 4-6 inches of lift but were trying to keep the cost down? Let's say you're already running a 2.5" Rusty's coil lift but want to go higher but can't afford the whole Jeepin by Al lift kit. You've already upgraded to his A-arms so that is taken care of. So to get say five inches in the front, you just get a set of 2.5 in Daystar spacers. But you also add in a set of the Jeepin by Al knuckle extensions to account for the extra height. And of course some extended brake lines. That way it is cheaper than new coils and strut assemblies. And for the rear you use the same 2.5 lift spacers on top of the 2.5 lift springs with the Y-link extension and new longer rear control arms (either Al's fixed length or some other ie. Rubicon Express, Currie etc adjustable arms). Would this set up work and could it be done for less money than the full coil 4-6 inch lift? Feel free to discuss.

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 Post subject: Blocks on Springs on Blocks
PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 7:12 am 
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If I wanted that kind of lift I think a JK would be better than a KJ.
Put on some good springs and shocks and go a little larger on tires and get a super ride.
Big lift and tires means new gears and crappy fuel mileage.

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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 3:34 pm 
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after the 4 inches jba has a cradle drop...that is what he told me...a custom shop could make drop brackets easy for everything...i'm suprised no companies tried that yet...

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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 4:28 pm 
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ohv_kj wrote:
after the 4 inches jba has a cradle drop...that is what he told me...a custom shop could make drop brackets easy for everything...i'm suprised no companies tried that yet...
After a 1/2" cradle drop there are major issues to overcome.The JBA 6" lift wouldn't work to well withe a KJ that had HD cooling since you would need to cut the bottom or the fan shroud or you can kiss your mechanical fan goodbye,but when you cut the shroud you just lost all the extra cooling ability that the shroud gives.Plus after dropping the cradle,you need to drop the tranny/t-case mount also so you don't end up pointing the rear t-case output up and causing driveline problems,then you really don't gain anymore clearance then a 4" lifted KJ since you dropped the whole drivetrain down.


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tjkj2002 wrote:
ohv_kj wrote:
after the 4 inches jba has a cradle drop...that is what he told me...a custom shop could make drop brackets easy for everything...i'm suprised no companies tried that yet...
After a 1/2" cradle drop there are major issues to overcome.The JBA 6" lift wouldn't work to well withe a KJ that had HD cooling since you would need to cut the bottom or the fan shroud or you can kiss your mechanical fan goodbye,but when you cut the shroud you just lost all the extra cooling ability that the shroud gives.Plus after dropping the cradle,you need to drop the tranny/t-case mount also so you don't end up pointing the rear t-case output up and causing driveline problems,then you really don't gain anymore clearance then a 4" lifted KJ since you dropped the whole drivetrain down.


You don't gain anything extra UNTIL you go to bigger tires (33's) but then..... oops... my diff exploded just thinking about it :evil:

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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 8:34 pm 
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A lot of you keep referring to swampthing and him having had no problems...you do know he dropped it back down due to some problems

That said I appauld swampthing for trying ( what had been tried before ) but he tried again, even had Als arms, broke one, used Als upper tri link, it broke ...if you want to go to 5/6 inches just bite the bullet and do a SFA
main reasons you cant run much over a 32 anyways
you can not get any lower gearing than 4.10s for the front
the front is a weak piont when going larger!

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