Should we really be worried about $4.00 a gallon?

Jeep Dawg · **Posted:** Sun May 18, 2008 9:57 am

once gas hits $6.00 per gallon, I will quit working. It will be cheeper to stay home. I drive for a living. I drive roughly 200 - 300 miles a day. with my KJ that = rite now 54.xx to fill up every other day

riptricket · **Posted:** Sun May 18, 2008 10:00 am

danngggg!!!
My g/f's dad is a oil pump checker and he fills up every mon, wed, and friday. he gets a raise when there is a substantial gas increase, so he's not complaining!

tan's2002kjlimited · **Posted:** Sun May 18, 2008 12:11 pm

DarbyWalters wrote:

A moped is 50cc or less...a scooter is bigger (150cc) in my case...funny, my friends all want one now!!!

A guy at work (45 years old, 250lbs.) is thinking about a scooter for his 50 mile r/t commute. He says think of all the gas he'll save, I said how will it feel going 30-40 mph with cars screaming past at 55-65mph with no shoulder to speak of going from the west side of Elgin to Elk Grove every day. I say better to put up with the Durango's mpg than risk life and limb for just gas mileage.

Me personally, filled up at $3.999. BP got into my pocket for $46.00-11.5 gal.
Even only getting 16 mpg is better than the mpg the ZJ was getting. 13.5 mpg.
It was starting to have probs, with 130K miles time to get smaller.
My wife has health issues, so a 4 door is needed, so the KJ was the choice for me.
I've had Jeeps most of the last 25 years, I just like the feeling you get driving one.
I'm currently working on the Moabs and tires.

DarbyWalters · **Posted:** Sun May 18, 2008 1:40 pm

tan's2002kjlimited wrote:

DarbyWalters wrote:

A moped is 50cc or less...a scooter is bigger (150cc) in my case...funny, my friends all want one now!!!

A guy at work (45 years old, 250lbs.) is thinking about a scooter for his 50 mile r/t commute. He says think of all the gas he'll save, I said how will it feel going 30-40 mph with cars screaming past at 55-65mph with no shoulder to speak of going from the west side of Elgin to Elk Grove every day. I say better to put up with the Durango's mpg than risk life and limb for just gas mileage.

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If he gets a MC License and a 150cc 4 stroke...he will be able to do 60+ mph if needed and still get 72+ mpg. Make sure he test rides a few scooters...a 50cc 2 stroke is not big enuff for him...a 150cc is and will get the same mpg as the 50cc 2 stroke.

Guest · **Posted:** Sun May 18, 2008 4:39 pm

Stampey wrote:

I can go the same 200 miles to a tank as my jeep but for 3-4 times less money

That a 650? I like those...Haven't ridden one though.

Inc · **Posted:** Sun May 18, 2008 5:51 pm

I am seriously considering buying a yamaha R6. Even if I financed the entire bike, with zero down, my payments would be cheaper than what I am blowing on gas in my kj. I fill up almost once a week, maybe once every week and a half. At $65 to $70 a pop, that adds up to a lot of gas every month and a bike could cut that down substantially. Even if I cam out even, I would still be ahead because I have a bike now and a kj.

DarbyWalters · **Posted:** Sun May 18, 2008 6:54 pm

For others, a smaller scooter (Craigs List) or even new will make good sense. Gotta crunch the numbers to see if they would work for you.

Guest · **Posted:** Sun May 18, 2008 7:49 pm

incubusmike wrote:

I am seriously considering buying a yamaha R6. Even if I financed the entire bike, with zero down, my payments would be cheaper than what I am blowing on gas in my kj. I fill up almost once a week, maybe once every week and a half. At $65 to $70 a pop, that adds up to a lot of gas every month and a bike could cut that down substantially. Even if I cam out even, I would still be ahead because I have a bike now and a kj.

a guy i know just bought an '08 R6...SWEET bike. He's had it for a week and a half and he's already put 800 miles on it :lol:

What you need to consider though is insurance, too...depending on your age bracket, a sportbike might be a bit expensive to insure. The Honda 599 (if it's still produced) would probably be cheaper to insure

Stampey · **Posted:** Sun May 18, 2008 10:51 pm

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That a 650? I like those...Haven't ridden one though.

Yep thats the 650. Its awesome. When i got it, it had exactly 0 miles on it. I only have 20 miles on it so far haha.

Rush345 · **Posted:** Sun May 18, 2008 11:03 pm

Honda has several 250cc Scooters yeah they are around $5,000.00 plus but You can ride it on the highway without not enough getty up.
Helix and Reflex are very nice scooters:
http://powersports.honda.com/scooters/

Or if you want a really powerful Scooter:

http://www.suzukicycles.com/Products/AN650AK8

InCommando · **Posted:** Sun May 18, 2008 11:43 pm

DarbyWalters wrote:

Chefdab, you are correct. Even the price of fruit is getting ridic...

I just hope everyone not only takes notice but acts now and plans ahead....and you must continually be vigilant and change/save/economize constantly.

My scooter purchase was a decision I made after much consideration. I could have put money in the stock market, my business or buy a scooter. The positive return on fuel savings made the decision for me. I still re-evaluate my finances on a weekly basis or so...got to keep up.

My "scooter" has 1584 cc's & still can break 50 mpg on the highway. :shock:

If I lived in a more urban setting, I would be very interested in a small motorcycle or scooter. I think their sales will zoom, and you will see them on the scale that you do in Asian & Europen countries. -5 & 12" of snow might limit their use somedays, though.

From another thread, their are several motorcycles in the 250cc range that get almost 70mpg. The Buell Bast has 500cc's & is rated at 70mpg city while still being sporty & coming in under $5k. Many of the larger "scooters" would more acurately be called "step-through" motorcycles. Maybe it is time for me to adjust some stocks...

XR · **Posted:** Mon May 19, 2008 10:53 am

Both of these get around 40 MPG.As long as there's no snow or ice I ride.Been that way since I had my license.The black one's Italian and an exotic,kinda like a Ferrari.And I ride it almost every day.

DryBones · **Posted:** Mon May 19, 2008 12:07 pm

Just starting to think about buying a bike. Never had 1 so Iwas thinking 1 of those Honda or Yamaha scooters with the automatic transmission but I like the looks of the small cruisers like the Yamaha Vstar better. Anybody know what kind of mileage the scooters and/or small cruisers would get? Darby, what kind of scooter you riding?

MiniDevil · **Posted:** Mon May 19, 2008 2:46 pm

InCommando wrote:

I don't like high gas prices, but unless we nuke China & India to get rid of the competition, this is how it is going to be.

It's not just competition. It's the fact that inflation because of the plummeting us dollar is getting out of control. Fuel isn't really going up as high, its the fact that it takes more US dollars to buy the same fuel.

Example: 2.00 a gallon a few years ago = 1.00 per half gallon. If the US dollar is now worth about half of what it was, then its 2.00 per half gallon = 4.00 per gallon. But then you get into the vicious circle because it takes fuel to get fuel here. Plus then you have to worry about paying workers the same amount of money to refine the fuel when it gets here.

Yes, there is price gouging going on but the bottom line is that there is a fuel crisis in sight. Who here can estimate the amount of petroleum reserves in today's oil wells? How long will it last us?

With an issue in sight, it may actually be a good idea to increase fuel prices. If you deter 50% of the people from using the fuel, then you can stretch the fuel out longer until a good alternative fuel is found.

Oh well just my theory and my $.02.

Jeep Dawg · **Posted:** Mon May 19, 2008 3:14 pm

MiniDevil wrote:

InCommando wrote:

I don't like high gas prices, but unless we nuke China & India to get rid of the competition, this is how it is going to be.

It's not just competition. It's the fact that inflation because of the plummeting us dollar is getting out of control. Fuel isn't really going up as high, its the fact that it takes more US dollars to buy the same fuel.

Example: 2.00 a gallon a few years ago = 1.00 per half gallon. If the US dollar is now worth about half of what it was, then its 2.00 per half gallon = 4.00 per gallon. But then you get into the vicious circle because it takes fuel to get fuel here. Plus then you have to worry about paying workers the same amount of money to refine the fuel when it gets here.

Yes, there is price gouging going on but the bottom line is that there is a fuel crisis in sight. Who here can estimate the amount of petroleum reserves in today's oil wells? How long will it last us?

With an issue in sight, it may actually be a good idea to increase fuel prices. If you deter 50% of the people from using the fuel, then you can stretch the fuel out longer until a good alternative fuel is found.

Oh well just my theory and my $.02.

BINGO
WELL SAID!

spoonplugger1 · **Posted:** Mon May 19, 2008 8:00 pm

According to a report on NPR a few days ago, between 30 and 40 percent of the higher price we are paying comes from the futures market. Everytime Nigeria has a hicup or something else hits the news the futures market has a field day.
Sounds like Enron all over again, someone trading a nonexistent product over and over again till they choke all they can out of it.

DryBones · **Posted:** Mon May 19, 2008 8:24 pm

or maybe with the weakening dollar and unsure stock market today the only good investment is in oil which never loses money and the more people buy these futures the higher they will keep going. If and when the market ever turns around and things get "solid" again the oil futures should stabilize but don't quote me on it! :lol:

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