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 Post subject: Can't get trailer hitch to fit over/around skid plate on 04
PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 2:25 pm 
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My buddy has an 04 renegade.
It's got the OE gas tank skid and on the side there are "ridges" or ribs.
We've tried a Draw tite hitch first, (with 6 bolt holes) and it won't fit around the skid plate because of those ridges.
It's just to narrow. (Or the skid is to wide)
We then tried a Reese "multi" hitch thing, with the 4 bolts, and all types of adjustable.
It also won't fit. It can adjust out wide enough, but you can't get it back narrow enough to actually go in all the bolt holes.
(actually now I have a cross threaded and sheered off bolt in the back corner, but that's another issue)

Has anyone else had this issue? Is the KJ's "skid" like the TJs where it also holds the gas tank up? So like taking the skid plate off will be a PITA?
If not, I might just take it off, grind those two ridges in the way off, and then call it a day.
If it is a pita, i'll just try a big hammer I guess?
Anyone else got any better ideas?

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 3:37 pm 
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you should have 2 straps holding the tank up - seperate from the skid plate mounts.

my trailer hitch is on the Rock Lizard bumper that attaches to the same holes - no alignment problems at all - no ridges
(just have to hold up the skid plate and 110 lb bumper)

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it should go up around/over with no problems, is the tank skid already on there? If so won't it (the hitch ) just push up over? I have the Kilby which is way heavier built than the OME one and I didnt have any problems??? Never heard of anyone having an issue

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tommudd wrote:
it should go up around/over with no problems, is the tank skid already on there? If so won't it (the hitch ) just push up over? I have the Kilby which is way heavier built than the OME one and I didnt have any problems??? Never heard of anyone having an issue


When we tried the first time (about 2 years ago) we had about 2 hours in the morning before he needed to haul with it.
We gave up as we were in a parking lot in NJ.
We tried for real once he got down to NC, and it just wouldn't fit so we assumed it was for the wrong year.
But they are all the same.
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Supposedly.

So this past time I tried everything I could think of, including creative use of a transmission jack, (bolts etc to hold it nice and level etc) BFH, sacrificing small children etc.
No luck.
If I can get this stupid thing on, he's going to bring back his dad's old bass boat, (smaller, about 1800 lbs loaded with trailer) and store it at my house so I can use it. :lol: (price of storage you know?)
So trust me, I was trying everything.
The adjustable one will get wide enough, but because of the ridges the holes are two wide, so you can't get the bolts to go in straight.
(and it's the 4 bolt style which I am not as comfortable with.)

But if there are 2 straps holding it up, that skid's coming off and getting the grinder.
Stupid jeeps and nothing being simple.


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The OEM gas tank skid is made to still work with the OEM rear hitch,some of the other rear hitches may work,or may not with the OEM gas tank skid.Get a OEM(MOPAR) rear hitch,it will solve all your problems.The MOPAR rear hitch is only a few $$$ more then those aftermarket ones anyway,and it's a perfect fit.

If your going to cut up the OEM gas tank skid might as well just remove it all together,it will be worthless then.


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tjkj2002 wrote:
The OEM gas tank skid is made to still work with the OEM rear hitch,some of the other rear hitches may work,or may not with the OEM gas tank skid.Get a OEM(MOPAR) rear hitch,it will solve all your problems.The MOPAR rear hitch is only a few $$$ more then those aftermarket ones anyway,and it's a perfect fit.

If your going to cut up the OEM gas tank skid might as well just remove it all together,it will be worthless then.


Well, I was just going to notch about 2" in the ridge. I doubt it would weaken it significantly at all.
With the 4 bolt one, I could notch even less, the only reason it doesn't line up is one of the "assembly" (for the hitch itself) studs is RIGHT on that ridge. I can see the hole, just you can't get a bolt in it without cross threading.

I guess we can try returning this one too, and try the mopar hitch.


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hscrugby wrote:
tjkj2002 wrote:
The OEM gas tank skid is made to still work with the OEM rear hitch,some of the other rear hitches may work,or may not with the OEM gas tank skid.Get a OEM(MOPAR) rear hitch,it will solve all your problems.The MOPAR rear hitch is only a few $$$ more then those aftermarket ones anyway,and it's a perfect fit.

If your going to cut up the OEM gas tank skid might as well just remove it all together,it will be worthless then.


Well, I was just going to notch about 2" in the ridge. I doubt it would weaken it significantly at all.
With the 4 bolt one, I could notch even less, the only reason it doesn't line up is one of the "assembly" (for the hitch itself) studs is RIGHT on that ridge. I can see the hole, just you can't get a bolt in it without cross threading.

I guess we can try returning this one too, and try the mopar hitch.
Yes cutting any material from the OEM skid will weaken it,also your tow rating with that universal hitch will be no greater then a classII hitch(2000lbs max) with only using 4 bolts and not the full 6(can't use it as a rear recovery point either),just to let you know.


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I have the draw-tite hitch and my mopar gas tank skid fits just fine. I dont remember having any problems getting it on.

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Jeepjeepster - do you wax your skidplates????

mine wasn't that clean coming out of the box.....

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X2 for the Drawtite and Mopar Fuel Skid working fine together

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Jeepjeepster - do you wax your skidplates????

mine wasn't that clean coming out of the box.....


No, but when I clean the under body I do spray tire shine on everything. :)

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hscrugby, your problem may just be alignment. Jeepster's pic shows the extra hole to use to pry things into place. However, on mine I ended up having to use a small c-clamp to align and hold the skid holes to the hitch holes, and then, a bar in the extra holes to align the skid/hitch with the frame holes.

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LostEddie wrote:
hscrugby, your problem may just be alignment. Jeepster's pic shows the extra hole to use to pry things into place. However, on mine I ended up having to use a small c-clamp to align and hold the skid holes to the hitch holes, and then, a bar in the extra holes to align the skid/hitch with the frame holes.

Good luck.


True...maybe he needs to "push" it in plave with a big old craftsman screwdriver (or any other lifetime warranty driver).

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tjkj2002 wrote:
The OEM gas tank skid is made to still work with the OEM rear hitch,some of the other rear hitches may work,or may not with the OEM gas tank skid.Get a OEM(MOPAR) rear hitch,it will solve all your problems.The MOPAR rear hitch is only a few $$$ more then those aftermarket ones anyway,and it's a perfect fit.

If your going to cut up the OEM gas tank skid might as well just remove it all together,it will be worthless then.


Thanks for this info. I've been considering buying a gas tank skidplate but was wondering if the Mopar OEM hitch would fit around it.
I guess I'll be ordering a OEM gas tank skidplate.


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Blue KJ in PA wrote:
LostEddie wrote:
hscrugby, your problem may just be alignment. Jeepster's pic shows the extra hole to use to pry things into place. However, on mine I ended up having to use a small c-clamp to align and hold the skid holes to the hitch holes, and then, a bar in the extra holes to align the skid/hitch with the frame holes.

Good luck.


True...maybe he needs to "push" it in plave with a big old craftsman screwdriver (or any other lifetime warranty driver).


Yea, not just alignment.
I'm used to working on my TJ, or other older trucks around a farm back home.
I have a 20" or so craftsman "screwdriver" as well as other random chunks of metal for shoving.

I met him for lunch and looked closer, so what my plan for Friday now is 1 of 2 things.
1. hammer the ridge down some. It's only going to take like 1/4-1/2" on each side at the top.
2. loosen gas skid, to shove it a little to one side, then hopefully compress it enough the other side can get on.


All in all it makes me think his kj is just as "slightly off" as my TJ is.


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hscrugby wrote:
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LostEddie wrote:
hscrugby, your problem may just be alignment. Jeepster's pic shows the extra hole to use to pry things into place. However, on mine I ended up having to use a small c-clamp to align and hold the skid holes to the hitch holes, and then, a bar in the extra holes to align the skid/hitch with the frame holes.

Good luck.


True...maybe he needs to "push" it in plave with a big old craftsman screwdriver (or any other lifetime warranty driver).


Yea, not just alignment.
I'm used to working on my TJ, or other older trucks around a farm back home.
I have a 20" or so craftsman "screwdriver" as well as other random chunks of metal for shoving.

I met him for lunch and looked closer, so what my plan for Friday now is 1 of 2 things.
1. hammer the ridge down some. It's only going to take like 1/4-1/2" on each side at the top.
2. loosen gas skid, to shove it a little to one side, then hopefully compress it enough the other side can get on.


All in all it makes me think his kj is just as "slightly off" as my TJ is.
You know that you have to completely unbolt the gas tank skid to put the hitch on,right?(not the 2 straps that hold the gas tank up)

The gas tank skid and the hitch use the same six bolts----it goes-frame,gas tank skid,hitch.


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tjkj2002 wrote:
You know that you have to completely unbolt the gas tank skid to put the hitch on,right?(not the 2 straps that hold the gas tank up)

The gas tank skid and the hitch use the same six bolts----it goes-frame,gas tank skid,hitch.


Hmm.
His OE skid has more than 6 bolts holding it on?
the 3 on each side, (all needed for 6 bolt style) and then i didn't really look, but taking them all off it was still snug.
I think there were 2 by the back bumper, and either a tab, or more bolts towards the front of the vehicle.

No clue. He's coming over tonight and we're gonna get a hitch on there one way or another.
I've got plasma, grinders, welders, and pretty much whatever else.
Just would rather not apply any of those near the gas tank. :lol:

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Should only be 3 bolts on either side of the fuel skid required for removal to drop the skid. http://www.mopar-accessories.com/en-US/imagehandler.ashx?id=1225

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hscrugby wrote:
I think there were 2 by the back bumper, and either a tab, or more bolts towards the front of the vehicle.


Those should be the bolts for the straps that hold the gas tank in.

The hitch and skid plate are bolted on the sides.

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