I can tell you that here in Arizona, JKs are running rampant! Someone is buying them...other than that I see few other new Jeeps on the road. I will stick to the KJ for a long time. It keeps takin the lickings and keeps on ticking!

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My KJ tags are $55/yr.

I, too, DD my KJ. It's only 3 years old and I don't see replacing it for a couple of years. It may be with a Jeep product, it may not. A JK may be in my future, though.

I consider myself a "jeep guy" for the old stuff I have owned, not the new: The string of CJ's, Commando's & the current '79 Cherokee.

Many analysts are still saying that Chrysler is is serious trouble, and certain divisions are likely to be sold. I'd say that would be Jeep. I think we will know by 2010. Cerebus buys companies & sells them off piece by piece.

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It's what I've been doing for the last 20 years. Wait, 2 steps from the grave, then trading it in for another one.

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My 2003 KJ is paid off and it does everything I ask of it so I'm keeping it.

I did however just buy a 2008 JK 2-door Rubicon. So I'm doing my part.

The JK Rubicon might be the best Jeep made ever. My opinion of course!

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I took the road less traveled. Now I'm LOST.

Those sales numbers are misleading.

Chrysler has reduce production/sales to fleets. In other words, they have decided not to sell to rental companies as much so that the value of their cars will stay longer.

The Patriot is actually a very good seller, so even though Wrangler and Liberty sales are down, the Patriot is doing well. And since it is on the same platform as the Caliber and Compass, it is making money for Chrysler, which is a good thing.

I think the bigger Jeep sales are down mainly due to gas prices. Most people pick up a Wrangler or Liberty expect it to get better gas mileage than an Excursion, but they don't.

I bought my '04 in the fall of '03 right off the show room floor. It will 100k miles on it by next month. I hope it keeps running smoothly for another year when I plan to add a second car for commuting. By the 2010 model year Chrysler will have the new Phoenix engines and better transmissions. Maybe by 2010 will be another Jeep that gets better mileage, but I doubt it.

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The SUV market is crashing right now. We were spoiled for along time with cheap fuel here in the US. Lots of people who would have had their needs met better with a station wagon or minivan bought an SUV because they were cool. The domestic automakers encouraged it as it allowed them to partially ignore the foolish federal regulations that controlled fuel economy (CAFE).

While the majority of people posting on here have or plan to take the KJs and other Jeeps off-road, 90%+ will never leave the pavement.

In the past decade trucks and SUVs have been 50%+ of new vehicles sold in the US. Before SUVs and pickups were chic their market share in the US was around 20-25%. It is currently in the process of going back down to historical norms. There will always be a market for vehicles like the Wrangler or Land Rover Defender.

The silver lining in this dark cloud is that for those who are still want SUVs there are bargains aplenty to be had. I recently saw a decent looking lifted XJ on craigslist for $1400.

About the only vehicle that I would get me out of my CRD for would are not available in the USDM: The 2.8 VM or the 3.0 MB Diesels in a Wrangler for < $25k.