Balancing issues, getting annoying. Any Ideas?

SBosco · **Posted:** Thu Aug 07, 2008 11:17 am

At 10K miles I ditched the original 16" CRD wheels and tires in favor of brand new 17" Jeep Oasis chrome clad wheels (off ebay) and 245/65/17 Destination A/Ts. I love them but I have had them balanced twice and neither time they have been balanced properly.

Since the oasis wheels are chrome clad, they are comprised of a chromed plastic face which is bonded to an aluminum/magnesium wheel. In the center, behind the center cap, the hole in the plastic face is of a smaller diameter than that in the aluminum/mag wheel itself. This design flaw presents itself when you try to mount the wheels on the balancer. The tapered hub centric cones will not allow the wheels to sit on the balancer properly. The situation is as follows:

The larger size tapered hub-centric cones bottom out on the plastic face before contacting the aluminum wheel because the smallest diameter of the cone is larger than the opening in the plastic face.

The largest diameter of the smaller size tapered hub-centric cone is smaller than the mating surface of the mag wheel.

For lack of a better solution, the wheels were "balanced" by centering them on the chromed plastic face.

I can infer from the poor balancing jobs that have been done, that the plastic faces are not perfectly centered with respect to the wheel itself.

Does MOPAR have a special hub-centric cone that they use?
Has anybody had similar experiences? problems? solutions?
Did I purchase fake, knock-off Oasis wheels on ebay? They have Chrysler part numbers on the backs of the wheels.
For a while I have dealt with the minor vibration but it's really starting to irritate me now. PLEASE HELP!

tjkj2002 · **Posted:** Thu Aug 07, 2008 2:06 pm

SBosco wrote:

At 10K miles I ditched the original 16" CRD wheels and tires in favor of brand new 17" Jeep Oasis chrome clad wheels (off ebay) and 245/65/17 Destination A/Ts. I love them but I have had them balanced twice and neither time they have been balanced properly.

Since the oasis wheels are chrome clad, they are comprised of a chromed plastic face which is bonded to an aluminum/magnesium wheel. In the center, behind the center cap, the hole in the plastic face is of a smaller diameter than that in the aluminum/mag wheel itself. This design flaw presents itself when you try to mount the wheels on the balancer. The tapered hub centric cones will not allow the wheels to sit on the balancer properly. The situation is as follows:

The larger size tapered hub-centric cones bottom out on the plastic face before contacting the aluminum wheel because the smallest diameter of the cone is larger than the opening in the plastic face.

The largest diameter of the smaller size tapered hub-centric cone is smaller than the mating surface of the mag wheel.

For lack of a better solution, the wheels were "balanced" by centering them on the chromed plastic face.

I can infer from the poor balancing jobs that have been done, that the plastic faces are not perfectly centered with respect to the wheel itself.

Does MOPAR have a special hub-centric cone that they use?
Has anybody had similar experiences? problems? solutions?
Did I purchase fake, knock-off Oasis wheels on ebay? They have Chrysler part numbers on the backs of the wheels.
For a while I have dealt with the minor vibration but it's really starting to irritate me now. PLEASE HELP!

Looks like you where another victim of super cheap knock-offs sold on ebay,you take a big chance buying stuff off stealbay and getting what you actually bought and them being the real deal.I've balance those same style rims you have(though actual MOPAR rims) and they where not like your discription as far as the hub hole and I had no problems balanceing them or mounting them on a balancer with the standard cones.

Blue KJ in PA · **Posted:** Thu Aug 07, 2008 2:33 pm

Time to try the air pellets... http://www.lostjeeps.com/forum/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=34343

SBosco · **Posted:** Thu Aug 07, 2008 4:33 pm

Will they interfere with the TPMS system? And any info regarding whether or not they damage the internal surface of the tire over time?

tjkj2002 · **Posted:** Thu Aug 07, 2008 5:57 pm

SBosco wrote:

Will they interfere with the TPMS system? And any info regarding whether or not they damage the internal surface of the tire over time?

There are guys here in CO that have run the beads in there tires for years with no problems and Dynasoft pellets have been run in semi's for for years and millions of miles with no problems.

Now the TPMS sensors may pose a problem.

jason thompson · **Posted:** Thu Aug 07, 2008 6:16 pm

easy solution to this problem
put the 16" OE wheels back on
I run OE wheels on both Jeeps and no problems
the TJ gets beat up out on the trails and I can balance Super Swampers on the OE wheels
the KJ gets its beating more on the streets of New Orleans ,pot holes and sinking streets ,there are spots where cars drag bottom
neither has ever had wheel problems ,TJ 6 years and KJ 5 years
now I have had tire problems ,and that caused a balance issue, on the KJ and it was with MTR's

SBosco · **Posted:** Fri Aug 08, 2008 8:49 am

jason thompson wrote:

easy solution to this problem
put the 16" OE wheels back on
I run OE wheels on both Jeeps and no problems
the TJ gets beat up out on the trails and I can balance Super Swampers on the OE wheels
the KJ gets its beating more on the streets of New Orleans ,pot holes and sinking streets ,there are spots where cars drag bottom
neither has ever had wheel problems ,TJ 6 years and KJ 5 years
now I have had tire problems ,and that caused a balance issue, on the KJ and it was with MTR's

I can't put the 16" CRD OE wheels and tires back on because I sold them shortly after I mounted the 17" oasis wheels. However, I am thinking about switching to another set. I am having a difficult time finding a set that I like though.

Does anybody have any reccomendations on nice 17" chrome or polished wheels with the same offset, etc? I don't want anything with rivets, etc. because they are a pain to clean.

I found these: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150278496552&ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:MOTORS:1123
I contacted the seller and he claims that they are OE Jeep wheels that they had chrome plated. I don't know how much I trust it though...not sure how well the chrome will hold up.

tjkj2002 · **Posted:** Fri Aug 08, 2008 7:17 pm

SBosco wrote:

jason thompson wrote:

easy solution to this problem
put the 16" OE wheels back on
I run OE wheels on both Jeeps and no problems
the TJ gets beat up out on the trails and I can balance Super Swampers on the OE wheels
the KJ gets its beating more on the streets of New Orleans ,pot holes and sinking streets ,there are spots where cars drag bottom
neither has ever had wheel problems ,TJ 6 years and KJ 5 years
now I have had tire problems ,and that caused a balance issue, on the KJ and it was with MTR's

I can't put the 16" CRD OE wheels and tires back on because I sold them shortly after I mounted the 17" oasis wheels. However, I am thinking about switching to another set. I am having a difficult time finding a set that I like though.

Does anybody have any reccomendations on nice 17" chrome or polished wheels with the same offset, etc? I don't want anything with rivets, etc. because they are a pain to clean.

I found these: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150278496552&ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:MOTORS:1123
I contacted the seller and he claims that they are OE Jeep wheels that they had chrome plated. I don't know how much I trust it though...not sure how well the chrome will hold up.

Stay away from stuff on ebay,you got taken once.Go look at a discount tires,they can get about any rim you want and good prices.

InCommando · **Posted:** Fri Aug 08, 2008 7:44 pm

[quote="SBosco

I found these: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150278496552&ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:MOTORS:1123
I contacted the seller and he claims that they are OE Jeep wheels that they had chrome plated. I don't know how much I trust it though...not sure how well the chrome will hold up.[/quote]

Fool me once, shame on you.....

TireRack or Discount tire, maybe, seeings as you do not mind paying shipping.

SBosco · **Posted:** Fri Aug 08, 2008 9:18 pm

I have had many good experiences with ebay but I am definitely more hesitant about that kind of stuff after being burned. I have seen those wheels chromed, like the ones on ebay, but from a wheel distributor. Does anybody have any input on whether these types of wheels, chromed would be a good idea? I am not sure about how well aftermaket chroming holds up, etc.

Balancing issues, getting annoying. Any Ideas?

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