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That is the oddest contraption I've ever seen

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Yeah I agree, lose the hitch receiver piece and keep the recovery strap.
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Even if it wasn't welded it doesn't look sturdy enough. Pulling a 4500 lb Libby on a level surface directly is one thing but tugging a stuck Libby from mud at an angle puts a whole lot more strain on the tow point & recovery strap.

Another thing that scares me is when people use a hitch ball as a tow point.

I use a class III hitch receiver with a shackle receiver for a tow point and to be honest I'm often the one doing the pulling/tugging.
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Get some good shackles and a hitch reciever(a 2" one) and call it a day.I use my WARN reciever shackle mounted in my RL bumber and/or 7 1/2ton rated alloy shackles and 20,000lbs strap(I have a 30,000lbs strap as backup),works for most stuckes but if I need to I use my 9500lbs rated WARN winch.

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I dont like shackles and I dont like to pull on any thing welded

I will not strap you if you do not have frame mounted tow hooks or a hitch
My life is worth more than your rig

The hitch is welded,if you have a good weld you will be fine.

Oh and I have seen more tow hooks bend/break then I have seen shackles fail and I have recovered much bigger and heavier vehicles then most(not with my KJ,though I did recover a lifted F-250 with my winch) in the military with chains(no such thing as a strap in the military) and shackles(no tow hooks period on tactical vehicles,only shackles).The biggest/heaviest was a "Super HETT" with the Hett trailer with a burnt up Bradley on it,total weight was around 140,000lbs using just a 30' 5/8" chain and some 50ton rated shackles(they didn't break,the biggest we had),had the Hemmit wrecker tied to a amored D9 dozer(about 180,000lbs+,broke down but a great anchor point) with the 30ton winch pulling in tandum.


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Yeah I agree, lose the hitch receiver piece and keep the recovery strap.
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Even if it wasn't welded it doesn't look sturdy enough. Pulling a 4500 lb Libby on a level surface directly is one thing but tugging a stuck Libby from mud at an angle puts a whole lot more strain on the tow point & recovery strap.

Another thing that scares me is when people use a hitch ball as a tow point.

I use a class III hitch receiver with a shackle receiver for a tow point and to be honest I'm often the one doing the pulling/tugging.
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available from http://rustysoffroad.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=rustys&Product_Code=REC101&Category_Code=rec_hit

Done deal already. I got a hitch shackle pretty much identical to the one in the pic and I cut the 1 1/4" hitch off and kept the strap. I am good to go now. :)

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That's what I have too, front and back.

Sorry to be negative, but I still don't like the idea of putting that 1 1/4" piece in the 2" reciever!

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So here it is, the replacement to the cheesy yellow receiver. Much better. :)
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tjkj2002 wrote:
Get some good shackles and a hitch reciever(a 2" one) and call it a day.I use my WARN reciever shackle mounted in my RL bumber and/or 7 1/2ton rated alloy shackles and 20,000lbs strap(I have a 30,000lbs strap as backup),works for most stuckes but if I need to I use my 9500lbs rated WARN winch.

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I dont like shackles and I dont like to pull on any thing welded

I will not strap you if you do not have frame mounted tow hooks or a hitch
My life is worth more than your rig

The hitch is welded,if you have a good weld you will be fine.

Oh and I have seen more tow hooks bend/break then I have seen shackles fail and I have recovered much bigger and heavier vehicles then most(not with my KJ,though I did recover a lifted F-250 with my winch) in the military with chains(no such thing as a strap in the military) and shackles(no tow hooks period on tactical vehicles,only shackles).The biggest/heaviest was a "Super HETT" with the Hett trailer with a burnt up Bradley on it,total weight was around 140,000lbs using just a 30' 5/8" chain and some 50ton rated shackles(they didn't break,the biggest we had),had the Hemmit wrecker tied to a amored D9 dozer(about 180,000lbs+,broke down but a great anchor point) with the 30ton winch pulling in tandum.


Which brings up a concern..How trusting of our OEM tow hooks should we be then? I just have the factory front ones..but it's an '03 So I'm wondering how quickly, if at all, do they deteriorate and need to be replaced so as not to snap or bend? (hmmmm)

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I just removed my rear tow hook (off my 05) and it was a little worn from use but there were zero structural flaws. I sold it so I sure hope it stays as strong as advertised. Otherwise sorry jerseykj! :wink:

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That thing is a TOW strap, not a recovery strap. Which means it isn't designed to stretch at all.
So you'd break that stuff at some point.

You all should look into recovery straps that are designed to stretch anywhere from 10-20%. So much safer and work 10 times better.
Yes, ARB makes great ones, but you don't have to use ours. That cheapo yellow webbing will kill someone in a heartbeat if you're not careful with it. Look for a good recovery strap that is made of Nylon with reinforced loops.

http://www.arbusa.com/tow_straps_recovery_gear.php

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ARBSeth wrote:
That thing is a TOW strap, not a recovery strap. Which means it isn't designed to stretch at all.
So you'd break that stuff at some point.

You all should look into recovery straps that are designed to stretch anywhere from 10-20%. So much safer and work 10 times better.
Yes, ARB makes great ones, but you don't have to use ours. That cheapo yellow webbing will kill someone in a heartbeat if you're not careful with it. Look for a good recovery strap that is made of Nylon with reinforced loops.

http://www.arbusa.com/tow_straps_recovery_gear.php

Aloha!

Actually this is a recovery strap. It may not be a beefy strap with reinforced loops but it is a recovery strap. It is designed for the webbing to fail completely at 12,900 lbs. and at 10,000 lbs. the webbing begins to separate at the stitching and thus by the time you reach the limit of 12, 900 it doesn't snap. It simply falls to the ground. It is a gradual process and not a violent snap that will harm anyone.

I also read a test done by an independent 4wd shop tested all the big boys to see how they held up. ARB's 11,000 lbs. strap failed at under 8,000 and was outperformed by Mean Green, Kaymar, Megastrap and Bushranger, all of which were 8,000 lbs. straps. Kaymar and Bushranger were the only ones in the test that exceeded their posted weight limit both wet and dry! That being said. The ARB will get you unstuck, but it failed by almost 20% or something. That really bums me out because I was going to buy an ARB but maybe not now. :?

I am however going to buy an additional recovery strap. Better safe than sorry. Not sure which I will buy though. Still looking around. :?:

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Speaking of recovery straps, which is the best recommended size (ie; 2" or 3"), and what length (20ft, 30ft)? I have a Pro Comp, 2" x 20'ft. Is this okay, or should I go bigger?

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Just so everyone knows, that strap I bought sucked hard. It started to come apart after I had towed my brother's CJ twice. Avoid that puppy at all costs. Supposed recovery strap my A...

Now I use a 3" X 30' Superwinch Recovery strap rated at 30,000 lbs. Never had to use it yet but we'll see.

As far as your strap goes Crossbones, that should be fine, The length is a preference thing and the weight should be enough to get out of almost any situation. I went longer because if I ever have to pull someone out of the mud I don't want to have to start off driving out of the mud to get them out. The extra length is just insurance for me.

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Thanks. I was pulled out of a pretty good size rut today by a guy who used his 3" 30ft strap. I'm thinking maybe I should buy one too and keep my 2" x 20' footer as a back up.

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Not a bad idea. Daisy chain pulls are know to happen now and again as well so more than one never hurts.

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http://offroadrecovery.zoovy.com/category/offroadrecoveryinfo.recoverystrapcomparo

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I ordered a Pro Comp 3x30 (rated @ 30K). Figured I had to match 'em - Just kidding about that. As long as they do the job when needed, I'll be happy.

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I ordered a Pro Comp 3x30 (rated @ 30K). Figured I had to match 'em - Just kidding about that. As long as they do the job when needed, I'll be happy.

Good choice, they make one of the most trusted straps out there.

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I carry a 20 and a 30 both are rated at 30K. Short one for a quick little jerk and the longer so I don't have to get my toes muddy!

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Good choice, they make one of the most trusted straps out there.

That makes me feel good about my choice.

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Short one for a quick little jerk and the longer so I don't have to get my toes muddy!

That's what it's all about! ha, ha.

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May not have an ARB bumper :( But I have an ARB strap 30' :D

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