Had the KJ for about a year now...the time has come

maddawg · **Posted:** Mon Nov 10, 2008 9:11 pm

Hi i've had the liberty sport for about a year now and i was thinking of getting a pickup truck but i had this thought of hey just make your jeep go where you want to. I just got into 4 wheelers and more than a couple of times someone from my groups has broken down rolled flipped or what ever so what i want to do is raise it up about 3 inches and there are these black wheels that i like with several round circles on them and some nice meaty tires. I've read around all the forums but still foggy on the lift i think the wheels i want are something (soft) and they are 8's. Here is my libby as it came from the dealership

Immediate things i want to do is lift and wheels
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2601421

maddawg · **Posted:** Mon Nov 10, 2008 9:50 pm

will these work if i want the wheels to stick out just a little

http://store.summitracing.com/partdetai ... toview=sku

tommudd · **Posted:** Mon Nov 10, 2008 10:16 pm

First if you want to go out and do some wheeling you do not want the tires to "stick"out, that will mess up your ability to flex and possibly tear the flares off.
Wheels you like are Crager Soft 8sshould get 16 X7 with 4 inch of backspacing 5 on 4.5 lug pattern
Lifts run all over the place as far as price
Frankenlift
OME Lift with either OME shocks or save a little with Ranchos
cheapest but not a coil spring replacement os the Daystar
Good write up that Tony has at the top of the page

Ask a lot of questions we are here to help :wink:

Tom

maddawg · **Posted:** Mon Nov 10, 2008 11:28 pm

so no wider stance should be made. i won't be going extreme off road but the ability to hit a wooded trail to go retreive my raptor is a must would like to go through some mud as well.

riptricket · **Posted:** Tue Nov 11, 2008 12:56 am

jsc where is the link to your front bumper?

jsc7002 · **Posted:** Tue Nov 11, 2008 1:43 am

glad to see you made it over here!

maddawg · **Posted:** Tue Nov 11, 2008 8:56 am

jsc7002 wrote:

glad to see you made it over here!

LOL look at the join date. i couldn't remember my password

ok so i will go with the black cragars in a 16" whats a good lasting road tire with the capability to it a trail or 2?

going for this look

http://plewy1980.brinkster.net/images/jeeptires2.jpg

tommudd · **Posted:** Tue Nov 11, 2008 9:02 am

maddawg wrote:

jsc7002 wrote:

glad to see you made it over here!

LOL look at the join date. i couldn't remember my password

ok so i will go with the black cragars in a 16" whats a good lasting road tire with the capability to it a trail or 2?

going for this look

http://plewy1980.brinkster.net/images/jeeptires2.jpg

you can go to a 8 inch wide wheel with 5 inch backspacing ( same as running a MOAB wheel from a Rubicon but it will hit the or rub the flares when off road and flexed out, have some pictures of mine where you can see it.

Tires , all depends , everyone has their own opinion of what is good

maddawg · **Posted:** Tue Nov 11, 2008 9:57 am

will these fit on a unlifted liberty i need new wheels and tires now but i will lift it February plan on putting them on cragar 16's
http://store.summitracing.com/partdetai ... toview=sku

can i just do the daystar 2.5 lift for under 300 bucks and be fine for a trail ride (no rock climbing i just need to get through the woods
http://store.summitracing.com/partdetai ... toview=sku

tommudd · **Posted:** Tue Nov 11, 2008 12:07 pm

maddawg wrote:

will these fit on a unlifted liberty i need new wheels and tires now but i will lift it February plan on putting them on cragar 16's
http://store.summitracing.com/partdetai ... toview=sku

can i just do the daystar 2.5 lift for under 300 bucks and be fine for a trail ride (no rock climbing i just need to get through the woods
http://store.summitracing.com/partdetai ... toview=sku

Those tires are WAY too big for unlifted, largest size unlifted is 245-70X16s even with a 3 inch lift those tires will require a lot of cutting.
daystar is a great cheap lift, but also know you have to get new rear shocks and should replace the front ones while you have it apart. After the lift a good tire size would be 245-75-16 then good soze, without too many hassles to make it fit

maddawg · **Posted:** Tue Nov 11, 2008 12:17 pm

tommud don't go anywhere hold steady.

so will this work and be all that i need for lift
http://store.summitracing.com/partdetai ... toview=sku

and go with the 16x8 cragar soft 8's with 5x4.5 and 5" backspacing
and some good 245 75 16 tires

might do the 15" wheels to get more meat on tires

Xodius · **Posted:** Tue Nov 11, 2008 12:45 pm

Listen to Tom, he knows his KJs.

As for the OME, they rock! I took his advise along with several others and love mine! In the end I think it will actually save me money. I ordered mine from Heather at All J.

For tires, I have 245/75/16 BFG AT KO with some minor rubbing on sway bar but am looking at some Moabs in the fairly near future....transmission willing

maddawg · **Posted:** Tue Nov 11, 2008 1:21 pm

where can i shop

OME heavy Duty springs front OME927s and rear OME OME 948
Rancho RSX 17004 rear , front RSX 17505

jsc7002 · **Posted:** Wed Nov 12, 2008 1:54 am

maddawg wrote:

where can i shop

OME heavy Duty springs front OME927s and rear OME OME 948
Rancho RSX 17004 rear , front RSX 17505

I bought my coils from www.dpgoffroad.com and my shocks and struts from summit racing

MP Jeeper · **Posted:** Fri Nov 14, 2008 5:16 pm

maddawg wrote:

jsc7002 wrote:

glad to see you made it over here!

LOL look at the join date. i couldn't remember my password

ok so i will go with the black cragars in a 16" whats a good lasting road tire with the capability to it a trail or 2?

going for this look

http://plewy1980.brinkster.net/images/jeeptires2.jpg

Far as tires go, BF Goodwrench AT/KO's is what's on the KJ in the picture you provided. Gotta' tell you though, i put Cooper ST's on mine years ago and i can't say enough good about 'em.

http://www.offroaders.com/tech/AT-MT-Ti ... overer.htm

i put them on at 33,000 and still have plenty tread on them at 81,000 miles. :shock:

They're a good looking AT tire IMHO, relatively quiet, stay balanced well and have performed very well off road. i have hung w/even the more agressive MT's in all but the nastiest mud.

i'll be changing to the Cooper STT's this spring as they are a bit more aggressive.

http://www.fourwheeler.com/techarticles ... index.html

It's hard though cause the ST's have been great. Good luck with whatever you decide!

riptricket · **Posted:** Fri Nov 14, 2008 6:12 pm

it's BF Goodrich, and they were great tires for me as well.
i am trying out some General Grabber AT 2's right now, and i love them. i got 60k out of my bfg and hope to get that many, if not more, out of my new General's

MP Jeeper · **Posted:** Fri Nov 14, 2008 6:47 pm

maddawg wrote:

jsc7002 wrote:

glad to see you made it over here!

LOL look at the join date. i couldn't remember my password

ok so i will go with the black cragars in a 16" whats a good lasting road tire with the capability to it a trail or 2?

going for this look

http://plewy1980.brinkster.net/images/jeeptires2.jpg

Far as tires go, BF Goodwrench AT/KO's is what's on the KJ in the picture you provided. Gotta' tell you though, i put Cooper ST's on mine years ago and i can't say enough good about 'em.

http://www.offroaders.com/tech/AT-MT-Ti ... overer.htm

i put them on at 33,000 and still have plenty tread on them at 81,000 miles. :shock:

They're a good looking AT tire IMHO, relatively quiet, stay balanced well and have performed very well off road. i have hung w/even the more agressive MT's in all but the nastiest mud.

i'll be changing to the Cooper STT's this spring as they are a bit more aggressive.

http://www.fourwheeler.com/techarticles ... index.html

It's hard though cause the ST's have been great. Good luck with whatever you decide!

Guest · **Posted:** Fri Nov 14, 2008 10:48 pm

maddawg wrote:

tommud don't go anywhere hold steady.

so will this work and be all that i need for lift
http://store.summitracing.com/partdetai ... toview=sku

ha ha. I find this a funny question to ask Tom because we all know the answer to that one since Tom has answered this a billion times ---> OME HD coils w/ rancho shocks. :lol:

Seriously though, if you want 3" of lift the Frankenlift (boulderbars.com) works and it comes preassembled with OME HD coils and either rancho or OME shocks. So all you have to do is swap the parts.

Had the KJ for about a year now...the time has come

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