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PostPosted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:36 pm 
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Go have a beer and get the B complex you need.

I do not miss using the hand primer when I replace my fuel filter, I just crack the bleeder and turn the key, how simple.

To vent the small bubbles in the fuel system, I crack the bleeder with the key on, how simple.



I drink plenty of beer so it must be some other vitamin I'm lacking.

I do not miss using the hand primer either. In fact I've never used it. Just fill the filter up before you install it. How simple.

To vent small bubbles in my fuel system I just drive it. How simple.

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onthehunt wrote:
To vent small bubbles in my fuel system I just drive it. How simple.
Where do they go?

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To vent small bubbles in my fuel system I just drive it. How simple.
Where do they go?







Combustion chamber.

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onthehunt wrote:
To vent small bubbles in my fuel system I just drive it. How simple.
Where do they go?


When small or even large bubbles are compressed to 23000 PSI they become nonexistent as they are instantaneously driven into solution. The problem caused by air in the fuel filter and or fuel lines is that a large "chug" of air getting into the gearoter supply pump starves the IP. The gearoter is not designed to pump air and is virtually incapable of pumping air, so it just spins it's wheels and no fuel gets to the high pressure plungers, rail pressure drops, engine misfires, driver curses and wishes that he had installed that lift pump which he read about on LOST.
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nursecosmo wrote:
UFO wrote:
onthehunt wrote:
To vent small bubbles in my fuel system I just drive it. How simple.
Where do they go?


When small or even large bubbles are compressed to 23000 PSI they become nonexistent as they are instantaneously driven into solution. The problem caused by air in the fuel filter and or fuel lines is that a large "chug" of air getting into the gearoter supply pump starves the IP. The gearoter is not designed to pump air and is virtually incapable of pumping air, so it just spins it's wheels and no fuel gets to the high pressure plungers, rail pressure drops, engine misfires, driver curses and wishes that he had installed that lift pump which he read about on LOST.
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Well written :D :shock: :wink:

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The CP3 has a fuel-return port, where the larger air bubbles in flowing fuel can be returned to the tank via the COV system - the smallest ones are super-compressed and homogenized into the fuel, shooting thru to the Rail and it's fuel-return port - as previously posted, it is the large air pockets that starve the lift pump and hi-pressure inj pump

Large pockets of air in the fuel head allow easily pumping the primer button until the air is compressed - fuel, being not compressible, makes the primer difficult to pump when the fuel head is full

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As far as the original question, how to tell if the hand primer pump itself is bad -

I had my hand primer quit working one time (when I still had the factory filter head installed), due to dirt and debris from a bad tank of fuel that kept the check valve from seating.

It's pretty obvious - you could pump all day long and not get any pressure buildup or anything out of the vent.

I had to attach a vacuum device to the vent and literally suck enough fuel up into the filter head, such that working the primer pump again flushed the crap out of the way and got it working again.

With a working primer pump and tight fuel system, it should take less than a half-dozen strokes to build enough pressure for it to become extremely difficult to operate the primer.

That's one other reason I installed an electric lift pump - from personal experience, I know that on occasion hand primer pumps can also cause problems or fail.

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retmil46: Sounds like what I do to replace the filter on my Wife's '99 TDI.
Her TDI is getting a lift pump installed when the weather is better, at least in the mid 20s, -30 is too cold.
I am tired of it cranking the extra four seconds before it starts.

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