Shopping List and some ???

colts_kj · **Posted:** Tue Jan 20, 2009 11:21 pm

Boulder Bars 339.95
Als UCA 385.95
Franken Lift 971.94
Full Mopar Skids 300.00
Aussie Locker 299.00
ATZ 265/75 800.00 or so
mopar F/R tow hooks 180.00?

I have the daystar lift and moabs roof rack and thats it so far.
I want to get rid of the daystar lift and get the Frankenlift
Where should I start this is a Long term list not a drop 3 grand in one day list
So the big thing is how should I start and finish?

Oh and let me Know is something wont work on my Jeep like the Locker?? I think I have A LS rear end I hear that the Aussie wont work for it?

Inc · **Posted:** Tue Jan 20, 2009 11:26 pm

Skids and recovery points.
Locker then lift and tires.
Boulder bars then Al's arms.

tommudd · **Posted:** Tue Jan 20, 2009 11:27 pm

The way I would do it

1) skids and tow points
2) Boulder Bars
3) Locker and yes if you have limited slip then you need an open carrier
4) Lift and arms
5) tires

also shop around for used or slightly used tow points/lift/rock rails etc. or do OME springs/ clevis/ Ranchos and save 300 for example to save $$$

2006 KJ · **Posted:** Tue Jan 20, 2009 11:32 pm

colts_kj wrote:

Boulder Bars 339.95
Als UCA 385.95
Franken Lift 971.94
Full Mopar Skids 300.00
Aussie Locker 299.00
ATZ 265/75 800.00 or so
mopar F/R tow hooks 180.00?

I have the daystar lift and moabs roof rack and thats it so far.
I want to get rid of the daystar lift and get the Frankenlift
Where should I start this is a Long term list not a drop 3 grand in one day list
So the big thing is how should I start and finish?

Oh and let me Know is something wont work on my Jeep like the Locker?? I think I have A LS rear end I hear that the Aussie wont work for it?

if you are not in a hurry i would wait for whatever comes up used for sale that you can get at a good price... and that's the order i'd get them

Except maybe for the frankenlift.. it is probably worth buying new. an Aussie locker will not work unless your rear end is completely open.. no limitedship/trac lock whatever they put in them from the factory.

if you dont want to buy used.... this is the order i suggest

1. skids and tow hooks
2. boulder bars
3. aussie locker (or similar).. helps a ton on road as well as off
4. frankenlift
5. tires.. (or you can buy mine used for $525 shipped

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6. Al's arms.. i dont have them on mine.. see no need yet

2006 KJ · **Posted:** Tue Jan 20, 2009 11:34 pm

wow tommud.. i was typing mine as yours was posted and it turned out almost the same. i think that means you should SFA my jeep... for free...

jsc7002 · **Posted:** Tue Jan 20, 2009 11:49 pm

I agree with Tom and 2006 KJ, but I would change the locker to a full replacement one, like the DL or ARB if you really wanna drop some cash

colts_kj · **Posted:** Wed Jan 21, 2009 12:16 am

Can the ESP trick me into thinking I have a LS diff in the Rear I know the off button is a trick to make you think you are turning it off?

But please don't make this a I hate ESP kill zone. I hate it just as much as most People do on here but I'm just trying to find out what to buy before i drop the money and screw everything up like i always do (ex. daystar lift installed wrong by a local 4x4 shop) That has my clevis screwed up and strut but that's a whole other thing that i need help with and will ask about when I'm closer to lift time.

jsc7002 · **Posted:** Wed Jan 21, 2009 12:39 am

I can help you install you lift when you get it if you wanna make the drive down to my area

Guest · **Posted:** Wed Jan 21, 2009 1:09 am

colts_kj wrote:

I think I have A LS rear end I hear that the Aussie wont work for it?

You can easily tell if you have the LSD. Raise the rear of the vehicle up. Put the transmission in N and turn off the parking brake. Now spin one rear tire with your hand. If the other rear tire spins in the opposite direction then you have a LSD.

If you have the LSD then you can not use the Aussie locker. I checked with Aussie to confirm. However Powertrax makes a similar locker that will work for the LSD. It is more work to install then in an open carrier but you can still do it yourself. There is little info on this install and most info is geared towards the open carriers. However, from my research i have learned that you do not have to remove the carrier in order to remove the LSD guts from the diff according to Powertrax's directions. However, even if you do there is a good guide on the internet here. You do not need to measure backlash or anything just follow their directions.

Many on this site will tell you to forget the 'lunchbox' lockers because they are not as reliable as a full carrier replacement. They may be right but we LSD's guys still need to know our options. Some may not be able to afford the more expensive full carrier replacement like an arb or detroit. :wink:

tommudd · **Posted:** Wed Jan 21, 2009 1:21 am

2006 KJ wrote:

wow tommud.. i was typing mine as yours was posted and it turned out almost the same. i think that means you should SFA my jeep... for free...

feeble whoops I mean GREAT minds think alike, but you owe me the SFA

colts...what all is messed up on your front end?

KJ kyle · **Posted:** Wed Jan 21, 2009 1:24 am

you can peice the franky together yourself to save some chedder.

Sean150 · **Posted:** Wed Jan 21, 2009 1:32 am

tommudd wrote:

2006 KJ wrote:

wow tommud.. i was typing mine as yours was posted and it turned out almost the same. i think that means you should SFA my jeep... for free...

feeble whoops I mean GREAT minds think alike, but you owe me the SFA

colts...what all is messed up on your front end?

Tom is doing SFAs for free? awsome, I'll drop mine off in a few weeks so you can install it tom.

colts_kj · **Posted:** Wed Jan 21, 2009 2:06 am

tommudd wrote:

2006 KJ wrote:

wow tommud.. i was typing mine as yours was posted and it turned out almost the same. i think that means you should SFA my jeep... for free...

feeble whoops I mean GREAT minds think alike, but you owe me the SFA

colts...what all is messed up on your front end?

Well..... at one point I knew then next i didnt know then knew again but was wrong and didnt know but now I know it will cost me money no matter who did what when or how... but really!

I could tell the whole story but it would be pages of words and long stories about how my jeeps life as sucked.

I really dont know how to write everything that needs to be told about my jeep and its crappy life but if anyone who thinks they can help me out wants to I would be happy to tell my jeeps story over the phone.

I will put up some pics and some parts of the stories

car accident never really got fixed right should have been totaled

my Strut after lift was installed wrong by a local shop (not fixed i still drive it like this) its up on the strut plate and makes lots of metal on metal noises

thats what i was wanting to fix with a new lift[/list]

2006 KJ · **Posted:** Wed Jan 21, 2009 1:01 pm

icarl wrote:

colts_kj wrote:

I think I have A LS rear end I hear that the Aussie wont work for it?

You can easily tell if you have the LSD. Raise the rear of the vehicle up. Put the transmission in N and turn off the parking brake. Now spin one rear tire with your hand. If the other rear tire spins in the opposite direction then you have a LSD.

a open diff will also do that.

and yes the ESP can trick you into thinking you have a lsd.

nosnorb_808 · **Posted:** Wed Jan 21, 2009 5:53 pm

So where do I put my name down for the SFA giveaway?

colts_kj · **Posted:** Wed Jan 21, 2009 9:39 pm

2006 KJ wrote:

icarl wrote:

colts_kj wrote:

I think I have A LS rear end I hear that the Aussie wont work for it?

You can easily tell if you have the LSD. Raise the rear of the vehicle up. Put the transmission in N and turn off the parking brake. Now spin one rear tire with your hand. If the other rear tire spins in the opposite direction then you have a LSD.

a open diff will also do that.

and yes the ESP can trick you into thinking you have a lsd.

So what is the best way to check

2006 KJ · **Posted:** Wed Jan 21, 2009 9:41 pm

colts_kj wrote:

2006 KJ wrote:

icarl wrote:

colts_kj wrote:

I think I have A LS rear end I hear that the Aussie wont work for it?

You can easily tell if you have the LSD. Raise the rear of the vehicle up. Put the transmission in N and turn off the parking brake. Now spin one rear tire with your hand. If the other rear tire spins in the opposite direction then you have a LSD.

a open diff will also do that.

and yes the ESP can trick you into thinking you have a lsd.

So what is the best way to check

prob. if you call a dealer and give them your vin number they can tell you. or buy an after market diff cover and change it yourself. while your cover is off the answer will be staring you in the face

colts_kj · **Posted:** Wed Jan 21, 2009 9:44 pm

WOW that was Fast!!! Thanks!

Fulltimer · **Posted:** Thu Jan 22, 2009 12:11 am

Go to a dealer and ask for a "build sheet". That will tell you what the rear end is and may answer future questions as well. They will want the VIN to do it.

Terry

Guest · **Posted:** Thu Jan 22, 2009 3:23 am

colts_kj wrote:

Boulder Bars 339.95
Als UCA 385.95
Franken Lift 971.94
Full Mopar Skids 300.00
Aussie Locker 299.00
ATZ 265/75 800.00 or so
mopar F/R tow hooks 180.00

Are you stuck on the MT ATZs?

If you're spending this much on off road gear, why skimp on rubber? If it's for road manners...uh...you ARE getting a locker, dude!

Seriously, go for a more aggressive tire if you're buying all this off road stuff...MT tires pay for themselves when you're in a technical, off-camber section of a trail, and the traction - not the locker, not the rock rails, not a strap - pulls you up.

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