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PostPosted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 7:25 pm 
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I re-posted because since it had a poll it was moved...Continue.
So I was laying in bed this morning wondering...I know that all Jeeps have letter codes, ex. KJ. But then I started to wonder, what does KJ stand for. Since all the Jeeps have a code ending in "J" I am going to assume that the "J" stands for Jeep. But if that's true, then what does the "K" stand for? And if the "J" does not stand for Jeep, then what does it stand for.
Yes I understand I thought of all of this while laying in bed this morning. It's sad I know. But what does KJ really stand for?

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Nothing, just like LJ, MJ, TJ, WJ, XJ, YJ and ZJ

ever notice there's no BJ?


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grnd93 wrote:

ever notice there's no BJ?


they leave that designation for the interior


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The "J" actually designates the platform of the Jeep, and the first letter designates the model. Hence, the new Wrangler will no longer be a TJ but instead a TK, as has happened the the WK, formerlly WJ (Grand Cherokee).

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grnd93 wrote:
Nothing, just like LJ, MJ, TJ, WJ, XJ, YJ and ZJ

ever notice there's no BJ?


CJ stood for Civilian Jeep and that was by far the most popular model (mostly because it was around forever)
FC was Forward Control
I am sure there are more like FSJ but i dont think that is an official designation.

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Our new Commander is a XK. Just had to throw that in. Now what does that stand for? Xtreme Krawler 8)

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KJ = Killer Jeep or perhaps.......Kan't Jeep? :-)r
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Why not have these: JJ, AJ, BJ, DJ, PJ, RJ, VJ

JJ and AJ are commonly used nickanmes of people
BJ - well, we'll leave that alone
DJ and VJ are music people or Victory in Japan
PJ is short for pajama's or Air Foce Special Forces
RJ is too close to the company name of RJ Reynolds.


Why not a special edition OJ? Make it a special edition Wrangler with orange paint and seats, a glove, that won't fit anyone, and knife in the glove box.

KJ = Keeper of the Jeep

or still KJ just stands for Jeep Liberty

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So I read in JP Magazine tonight that KJ stands for the 10th Letter of the VIN number on your card. It said that each Jeep has a letter code standing for what the 10th letter is on the VIN. I have not checked it yet but feel free and let me know.

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that makes perfect sense actually, when VIN numbers were standardized all of the info was put in them. I am working on a VIN decoder for the tech section (difficult without a service manual). But I know that the 10th is always the body style. I believe the last 6 digits are the actual number your Jeep is.

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ManicMechanicJoe wrote:
that makes perfect sense actually, when VIN numbers were standardized all of the info was put in them. I am working on a VIN decoder for the tech section (difficult without a service manual). But I know that the 10th is always the body style. I believe the last 6 digits are the actual number your Jeep is.


I think it's the last 8 digits, because those are what you type into Jeeps site to get recall info

10th digit is not a K, but the 8th digit is a K and the 2nd digit is a J?

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ManicMechanicJoe wrote:
that makes perfect sense actually, when VIN numbers were standardized all of the info was put in them. I am working on a VIN decoder for the tech section (difficult without a service manual). But I know that the 10th is always the body style. I believe the last 6 digits are the actual number your Jeep is.


I think it's the last 8 digits, because those are what you type into Jeeps site to get recall info

10th digit is not a K, but the 8th digit is a K and the 2nd digit is a J?


I've got a J for the second and a K for the eigth

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the 8th digit is actually the engine code, the 3.7 would be a K and the 4 cyl would be ? That k probably has nothing to do with KJ

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the first digit is the origin of manufacture (country of final assembly, should be a 1 in all cases for USA). the second is the manufacturer, it should say J (for Jeep). Look at the VIN numbers posting for an excellent post involving this subject.

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Why not a special edition OJ? Make it a special edition Wrangler with orange paint and seats, a glove, that won't fit anyone, and knife in the glove box.


Can't do it David....

Ford already got it with the White Freeway special. :wink:

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There was a "DJ" the Dispatch Jeep, the old FSJ, are SJ's, the VJ was the old Jeepster. All vehicles have this sort of model designation, Jeeps are just the only ones that are really all that common outside of the auto industry and people don't think you're crazy. Check out a rice rocket board, they use it for Hondas and what not too.

If you look at an invoice for a jeep it is actually something like KJJ74 The KJ=liberty, the extra J = 4x4 and I don't know what the 74 is. I think it's the trim line. All your options have thier own special codes too.

Here it breaks the VIN down for you. Vin#'s and Model Code are two totally different things.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VIN#Parts_of_the_VIN

Stole this from another forum - no guarantees on total accuracy, but pretty darn close(it is missing the TJ-L and the XK):

M170 - Similar to a military version of the CJ-6. 4155 of them were made in the mid-50's and early-60's.
CJ - The first civilian version of the military-inspired short-wheelbase Jeep, made '42-'86. Encompasses everything from flat-fenders to Scramblers. Like many other early Jeep designations, "CJ" actually stands for something: Civilian Jeep. Various numbers followed the CJ designation, indicating different body styles within the CJ line:
CJ-2A - A flat-fender, very similar to the military MB ('45-49) except that the headlights bulge out of the grill instead of being inset.
CJ-3A - A flat-fender, very similar to the military M38 ('48-53).
CJ-3B - A flat-fender, the top of its hood sits 4" higher above the fenders than the 3A to clear the new F-head engine ('52-68).
CJ-4 - Only one prototype is known to exist. It was discovered in 1997(?), still in the hands of its second owner. It looks like a 50/50 mix of a CJ-3A and a CJ-5, with only slightly-rounded fenders.
CJ-5 - The civilian version of the M38A1, but with the front shackles under the bumper like most other models. 81" ('55-'71) or 84" ('72-'83) wheelbase. Front fenders are rounded like all subsequent short-wheelbase Jeeps. Easily distinguished from the CJ-7 by a small doorway with a rounded, sloping rear edge.
CJ-6 - Essentially a CJ-5 that was stretched 20" ('58-75), intended for use as a small pickup.
CJ-7 - A compromise between the CJ-5 and CJ-6, having a 93.4" wheelbase (like the YJ and TJ). The body tub is very similar to the YJ and TJ, but the rear wheel wells are round instead of angular. Made '76-'86.
CJ-8 - Also called a "Scrambler." Similar to a CJ-7, but with an extra 10" of wheelbase and an even longer rear overhang. Like the CJ-6, it was intended as a small pickup, but never really found its niche. Only 27,000 were made from '81-'86. Commonly seen with half-cab tops that surround only the front seats.
CJ-10 - A more truck-like Jeep built mainly for export from 1981-85. Easily distinguished by the square headlights in the fenders and the 10-slat grille.
YJ - The original Wrangler, made '87-'95 (though production actually continued into March of '96). Rectangular headlights make it the sensored word child of the of the short-wheelbase line. Rear wheel wells are larger and more angled than the CJ-7, but otherwise the two are visually quite similar.
TJ - The second generation Wrangler, made '97-present (actually began shipping May of '96). Round headlights, coil suspension, and a much more car-like interior distinguish it from the YJ.
SJ - The full-size Cherokee ('74-'83), Wagoneer ('63-'83), Grand Wagoneer ('84-'91), and J-truck ('63-'87). In 1984, Jeep introduced the down-sized XJ and started calling them Cherokees and Wagoneers, leaving only the Grand Wagoneer in the SJ lineup until its demise in '91.
M-715 - A 5/4-ton military pickup built '67-'69. It somewhat resembles a J-truck (SJ), only bigger and badder.
XJ - The down-sized Cherokee ('84-'01) and Wagoneer ('84-'89?). It was (probably?) the first Jeep to use a unibody chassis.
KJ - The Liberty ('02-present), which replaced the XJ in Jeep's product lineup.
ZJ - The Grand Cherokee ('93-'98), which replaced the Grand Wagoneer (SJ) as Jeep's luxury cruiser after a 1-year hiatus. Though much more aerodynamic than the SJ, it's obviously less rounded than its replacement, the WJ.
WJ - As the more bubble-shaped, aerodynamic replacement for the ZJ, it continues the Grand Cherokee name ('99-04).
WK - The third style of Grand Cherokee has a more angular design than the WJ and also joins the Liberty in having an independent front suspension ('05-present).
MJ - The Comanche pickup ('86-'92). It shares much in common with the XJ of that era, including its front unibody chassis. It replaced the full-size Gladiator and J-truck pickups of the SJ era.
DJ-3A - Dispatcher (postal) version of the CJ-3A, made '56-65. Only 2-wheel drive versions were available.
DJ-5 - Dispatcher (postal) version of the CJ-5, made '65-8? by Jeep and then AM General. Only 2-wheel drive versions were available. A DJ-6 (long, like the CJ-6) was also made from '65-68.
VJ - The Jeepster ('48-50) was an attempt by Willys to spice up their vehicle lineup. 2WD, 72hp, and poor marketing doomed it to be discontinued after less than three years.
C-101 - The Jeepster Commando ('66-73) was an attempt by Kaiser to compete with with the Bronco and TLC. The C101 was part CJ and part Wagoneer, advertised as a "happy combo, racy and rugged." This time around it had 4WD, and came in convertibles, hardtop wagons, and half-cab pickups.
FC - Forward Control pickups, with the cab directly above the engine. Made '57-'63

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The CJ-10 was also used by the US military as an aircraft tug. Burnsville offroad (the same folks who built a CRD Rubicon and a Viper Powered TJ) is building one for off road. Came with ultralow gears and a big ol' diesel. You folks need to come to minnesota.

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Wait hold the phone. what is a Viper powered TJ. Youd dont mean viper as in Dodge Viper? I was away for a few days and lost all track of the post. lol I'll catch up.

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