Time for New Tires - Any leads?

geordi · **Posted:** Tue Apr 14, 2009 12:59 am

Hey, no problem. Glad to help out.

On the pricing - I got mine at Sams Club for $112 MOUNTED, each. I have been back and looked again since, and they are still right in that ballpark, while everything else in a 245+ width and 70/75 heights was STARTING at $150 and going rapidly north from there.

By the way, this should be the biggest selling point for the BF Goodrich tires:

MADE IN THE USA

Kinda gives a REALLY warm and fuzzy feel that you don't get buying Communist China Crap brand. I'm equally surprised that not only did I find something made in the USA in Sams Club (Walmart) but it was the CHEAPEST PRODUCT of the selection!

Will wonders never cease.

Sir Sam · **Posted:** Tue Apr 14, 2009 1:13 am

I got my BFG long trails for $87 mounted each.

sbohner · **Posted:** Tue Apr 14, 2009 1:59 am

Thanks Guys! I think I will check out Sams tomorrow.

Cheers!

geordi · **Posted:** Tue Apr 14, 2009 2:46 am

Sir Sam wrote:

I got my BFG long trails for $87 mounted each.

You never mentioned that you were in the Mafia... :lol:

How else could you have stolen the tires for that little? Either that, or the retail market is just SCREWING the public down here in Savannah. I wouldn't be surprised if that were the case.

At least the tires are made here, so the money is staying HERE instead of lining the pockets of a government that doesn't like the USA much at all. I'd happily pay more for that knowledge.

Also, not ONE single product that I have bought that was made in the USA has ever failed under hard usage. USA products have always exceeded their designs in my experience. Yay for QUALITY, y'know?

BVCRD · **Posted:** Tue Apr 14, 2009 7:59 am

I know from my freedom fries days that BFG's are a french company.

ATXKJ · **Posted:** Tue Apr 14, 2009 3:05 pm

according to Wiki - The Goodrich corp sold the Tire business to Michelin

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B.F._Goodrich

of course that doesn't mean they shut the plants - just redirect the profits.

Sir Sam · **Posted:** Tue Apr 14, 2009 3:17 pm

geordi wrote:

Sir Sam wrote:

I got my BFG long trails for $87 mounted each.

You never mentioned that you were in the Mafia... :lol:

How else could you have stolen the tires for that little? Either that, or the retail market is just SCREWING the public down here in Savannah. I wouldn't be surprised if that were the case.

At least the tires are made here, so the money is staying HERE instead of lining the pockets of a government that doesn't like the USA much at all. I'd happily pay more for that knowledge.

Also, not ONE single product that I have bought that was made in the USA has ever failed under hard usage. USA products have always exceeded their designs in my experience. Yay for QUALITY, y'know?

Got em from discount tire, fyi discount price matches and will work with ya if you can a cheaper price.

Also, they used to be 64 each from sams club a few months before I got mine.

Sir Sam · **Posted:** Tue Apr 14, 2009 3:27 pm

BFG long trails:
http://www.samsclub.com/shopping/naviga ... tem=172787

Commercial TA:
http://www.samsclub.com/shopping/naviga ... tem=179989

From discount:
http://www.discounttire.com/dtcs/findTi ... INT&cs=245

At discount though if you sweet talk em you can get 15% off. Plus this is typically a time when discount is hurting for units, so they are more likely to give you a good price to get some units sold.

jinstall · **Posted:** Tue Apr 14, 2009 6:24 pm

I just ordered 2 Kumho 798's for the KJ front. The rears are almost 2mm to th ewear bars so they need to be replaced. The fronts will go to the rear. I burn through tires so it is easy to buy them 2 at a time. $90 each at Tire Rack.

BVCRD · **Posted:** Tue Apr 14, 2009 6:33 pm

ATXKJ wrote:

according to Wiki - The Goodrich corp sold the Tire business to Michelin

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B.F._Goodrich

of course that doesn't mean they shut the plants - just redirect the profits.

Cooper Discoverer S/T or S/T-C. It's a better all around tire as compared to the BFG AT/KO. Cooper is also a US company that manufactures it's tires in the US, compared to the BFG which is a French owned company(Michellin) that manufactures their tires in Mexico.

geordi · **Posted:** Wed Apr 15, 2009 4:58 pm

Sir Sam wrote:

BFG long trails:
http://www.samsclub.com/shopping/naviga ... tem=172787

Commercial TA:
http://www.samsclub.com/shopping/naviga ... tem=179989

From discount:
http://www.discounttire.com/dtcs/findTi ... INT&cs=245

At discount though if you sweet talk em you can get 15% off. Plus this is typically a time when discount is hurting for units, so they are more likely to give you a good price to get some units sold.

Wrong size for the Commercial T/A (and I saw that both are the same 245/75) but they are showing as $145 (commercial) and $135 (Long Trail) but they don't talk about the treadwear life. I would bet that the Long Trails are a softer tire, b/c they are rated faster (106mph vs 99) even at the same load.

Discount Tire had the Long Trails at the same price however, $135.

Sams has the 235/85 Commercial tires at $137 however, and while it shows as a "special order" they carry them standard in the sams closest to me.

Oh, and this was on the page for the 235/85 commercial tires:

Assembled Country of Origin:
USA
Components Country of Origin:
USA and Imported

Not sure what could be imported in a tire, maybe the belt materials. But I don't really care who the parent company is, as long as the work is being done here by Americans. Kinda balances out the "American" owned businesses that manufacture everything in Mexico or China.... Like GM.

Sir Sam · **Posted:** Wed Apr 15, 2009 5:48 pm

geordi wrote:

Sir Sam wrote:

BFG long trails:
http://www.samsclub.com/shopping/naviga ... tem=172787

Commercial TA:
http://www.samsclub.com/shopping/naviga ... tem=179989

From discount:
http://www.discounttire.com/dtcs/findTi ... INT&cs=245

At discount though if you sweet talk em you can get 15% off. Plus this is typically a time when discount is hurting for units, so they are more likely to give you a good price to get some units sold.

Wrong size for the Commercial T/A

no its not the wrong size, I picked the 245/75 because the largest tire that will shove under stock.

geordi · **Posted:** Wed Apr 15, 2009 6:12 pm

Ok, that makes sense. I prefer height to width b/c width equals friction, but the 235/85 should have the same outer diameter while being a bit narrower.

jinstall · **Posted:** Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:42 pm

The tires showed today at 1200 from FedEx, that was quick.

Cowcatcher · **Posted:** Thu Apr 16, 2009 5:44 pm

sbohner wrote:

Thanks Darby,

These look like great choices. I will check them out.

Is the 245 size going to rub on a non-lifted configuration of the Liberty?

Again, thanks - you have always given great information.

Grateful regards!

DarbyWalters wrote:

I am running the Toyo Open Country HTs in a 235/75/16 and love them.

Another tire that was just introduced by Hercules is the new All Trac which comes in a 245/70/16 (not the same as the Hercules Terra Trac ATs). It is fairly aggressive as an AT but has a great tread desgn for the road.

I have the 245's and they don't rub. I don't like them in the snow though.

sbohner · **Posted:** Wed Apr 29, 2009 12:56 am

I bought the Firestone Destination ATs 245/75/16 and had them installed today. They rub a bit in the front when I turn, however, my speedometer is no longer 3 mph off. The tires are quiet and were nice in the rain today.

Anyone have any ideas on how to reduce the rub on the front tires when I turn a sharp corner? Thanks!

Sir Sam · **Posted:** Wed Apr 29, 2009 1:13 am

sbohner wrote:

I bought the Firestone Destination ATs 245/75/16 and had them installed today. They rub a bit in the front when I turn, however, my speedometer is no longer 3 mph off. The tires are quiet and were nice in the rain today.

Anyone have any ideas on how to reduce the rub on the front tires when I turn a sharp corner? Thanks!

Look at where they rub, mark/remember it, take the wheel off, heat with heat gun, push hot plastic out of way.

geordi · **Posted:** Wed Apr 29, 2009 1:54 am

Thats actually a VERY good idea. Thanks for that Sam!

sbohner · **Posted:** Wed Apr 29, 2009 8:01 am

That is an interesting idea.

I had considered some cutting (plastic surgery), but this is certainly more viable. Now to find a heat gun!

Thanks for the great idea!

Sir Sam wrote:

sbohner wrote:

I bought the Firestone Destination ATs 245/75/16 and had them installed today. They rub a bit in the front when I turn, however, my speedometer is no longer 3 mph off. The tires are quiet and were nice in the rain today.

Anyone have any ideas on how to reduce the rub on the front tires when I turn a sharp corner? Thanks!

Look at where they rub, mark/remember it, take the wheel off, heat with heat gun, push hot plastic out of way.

DGM635csi · **Posted:** Wed Apr 29, 2009 7:09 pm

Just bought myself a set of General Grabber AT2's from Americas/Discount tire about a week ago. Im a big BFG AT fan, but I had a set of the grabbers on a 1973 Wagoneer and they seemed pretty good, so I thought I would try them again on my CRD. I bought 245/70/16, and they have not rubbed under any circumstances yet. They are pretty quiet for the most part, but I can hear them hum a little from 30-35 mph. They are great in the rain so far, and relatively responsive on dry pavement for this type of tire. I paid $570ish installed, plus general has a $50 mail in rebate. So far, so good.

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