It happend in Boardman Ohio

moto-scoot · **Posted:** Sat May 09, 2009 10:43 pm

DIESEL CHEAPER THAN GAS!!!!!!!!!
And even stranger im filling my blue 05 limited;
and another green CRD pulls up and fills on the other side of the same pump.

nursecosmo · **Posted:** Sat May 09, 2009 11:35 pm

ULSD went 5 cents cheaper than RUG yesterday for the second time in the past couple of months.

geordi · **Posted:** Sat May 09, 2009 11:49 pm

Saw that today on the 95 corridor in Georgia... RUG 2.09 or higher, usually 2.19... Diesel 2.05 to 2.09!

It's ABOUT FRIGGING TIME, now all I need is my CRD back, instead of this 10mpg Grand Cherokee beast. I know it has 211k miles on it, but there has to be SOMETHING wrong for it to be getting such horrid mileage.

moto-scoot · **Posted:** Sun May 10, 2009 12:07 am

dont try to fix that grand.
about the only way you will do better if its on a flatbed.
wifes 00 XJ gets 12-14

gas gets higher than reg we can toss out that kelly blue book
ask what we want like harley owners........

geordi · **Posted:** Sun May 10, 2009 12:59 am

I might agree with you, but it's a 97 with the V8. Local Jeep tech (all he ever touches, and it's his own business) says (and I seem to remember) that this design should be getting up to 19 hwy, and like 14 city. Last tank was almost entirely city, and for 20 gallons I got 210 miles. Ugh.

Granted, a small portion of that was towing a 2500 lb generator, but still. 45 miles of towing wouldn't ruin the MPG that badly.

I've now pulled the cat from it, and I just put the oxygen sensor back onto the wire, but ziptied to the transmission skid. It has it's own heater (which probably died eons ago) so this is just to turn off the idiot light, and maybe that is part of why it drank so much gas.

Honestly, if I ever get my CRD back together, I am getting the damaged engine back anyway... If the damage isn't too bad, I may just rebuild that CRD motor myself and pick up a 545 to shove behind it. I've got the computers... So this could be a re-power for this GC. Its not like the GC's motor is gonna last forever anyway, and the truck is paid off. Hmm. At least that way, I could keep the 4wd of the GC. Now... Would I also need to find a Skreem module, or can the engine start without it on the computer?

nursecosmo · **Posted:** Sun May 10, 2009 8:35 am

[quote="geordi"] I've now pulled the cat from it, and I just put the oxygen sensor back onto the wire, but ziptied to the transmission skid. It has it's own heater (which probably died eons ago) so this is just to turn off the idiot light, and maybe that is part of why it drank so much gas. [quote]

There you go. It's running in closed loop cold start mode, because the computer can't tell how lean it's running without the O2 sensor.

bewestro · **Posted:** Sun May 10, 2009 6:14 pm

Up here in MI, at an Admiral down the road, RUG is up to $2.23, ULSD is parked at $2.08. Has been there for weeks. Yay!

bdptp73 · **Posted:** Sun May 10, 2009 7:45 pm

Filled the GC CRD today @ $1.89/gallon #2
Filled the wife's car today @ $2.19/gallon RUG

geordi · **Posted:** Mon May 11, 2009 12:33 am

nursecosmo wrote:

geordi wrote:

I've now pulled the cat from it, and I just put the oxygen sensor back onto the wire, but ziptied to the transmission skid. It has it's own heater (which probably died eons ago) so this is just to turn off the idiot light, and maybe that is part of why it drank so much gas.

Quote:

There you go. It's running in closed loop cold start mode, because the computer can't tell how lean it's running without the O2 sensor.

Possibly, this is the second or rear O2 sensor though... My research says that this one is for telling the computer how efficiently the converter is working, that the front sensor tells the ECU that the engine is running lean etc. So I don't think it would have had as much to do with the economy... But I'm also not sure that the engine has 2 sensors. Either way, after 212k miles, I'm sure they are killed anyway. I'm thinking about finding and changing the first one if it exists.

danoid · **Posted:** Mon May 11, 2009 11:42 am

Stranger things have happened than diesel being cheaper than gas...

CRD Joe · **Posted:** Mon May 11, 2009 11:51 am

The commies here in Olympia have taxed diesel so much so it's way more expensive than gas.

BlackLibertyCRD · **Posted:** Mon May 11, 2009 1:03 pm

geordi wrote:

Saw that today on the 95 corridor in Georgia... RUG 2.09 or higher, usually 2.19... Diesel 2.05 to 2.09!

It's ABOUT FRIGGING TIME, now all I need is my CRD back, instead of this 10mpg Grand Cherokee beast. I know it has 211k miles on it, but there has to be SOMETHING wrong for it to be getting such horrid mileage.

I had a 98 Durango with a 318 (5.2L) V8 and the best it got was 16 on the highway. Average about 11 - 12 UGGG!

007husky · **Posted:** Mon May 11, 2009 1:07 pm

Still $2.50 in the NOVA area.

vtdog · **Joined:** Fri Sep 30, 2005 11:27 am **Posts:** 640

Diesel is cheaper than Premium, but still about 8% more than RUG here

linewarbr · **Posted:** Mon May 11, 2009 4:11 pm

vtdog wrote:

Diesel is cheaper than Premium, but still about 8% more than RUG here

x2 here in Baton Rouge. RUG about $1.99, Diesel #2 about $2.05.

jinstall · **Posted:** Mon May 11, 2009 9:45 pm

I took a photo today and diesel was cheaper than Premium and Mid grade at Hess just off base.

It happend in Boardman Ohio

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