Liberator is sitting in our shop

ManicMechanicJoe · **Posted:** Thu Jan 26, 2006 5:09 am

somebody has a wicked sense of humor...

brpn#1 · **Posted:** Thu Jan 26, 2006 7:56 am

chemguy wrote:

x3rdxStrikex wrote:

I would SOOO buy that lift if it didn't bust like the 7up!

The 7-up lift does not bust up. This is a lie perpetrated by that scum fireblad1. Do not believe this treachery. Also, the ball joints have no problems...they are stronger than the walls of Jericho!

omg.. that is funny and bad at the same time.. i can still hear that dumba$$ voice on tv

x3rdxStrikex · **Posted:** Thu Jan 26, 2006 11:08 am

Now THAT'S COMEDY!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Good one chemguy!!!!!

NU ARTY BOY · **Posted:** Thu Jan 26, 2006 5:39 pm

So mike, now that you (superlift) have the Liberator back, does that mean you are going to put some serious work into a KJ lift? How is that going?

chemguy · **Posted:** Thu Jan 26, 2006 7:15 pm

BTW Mike, I would be willing to haul my booty from Houston to coon booty land to get it....if ya'll come to your senses and decide to build the thing.

You know the saying, "Build it, and they will come."

0311_DoC · **Posted:** Sun Jan 29, 2006 1:04 pm

Mike, Im sure you will take great pics of the suspension components right .... :mrgreen:

kj in a tight spot · **Posted:** Thu Feb 02, 2006 8:59 pm

I was under the impression that the "Liberator" was the SFA job done where it used to be an orange KJ and then was painted black on top with red rockers and doors...I can't find a pic but you guys who have been on here for a while know what I am talking about.

ManicMechanicJoe · **Posted:** Thu Feb 02, 2006 11:47 pm

the Liberator is the rumored 4" superlift... It is IFS. I have seen pictures of 4 KJ SFA's. One is the trailready KJ (featured in 4wd and Off Road) which was recently sold. JediJeeper built one after his D30a grenaded. The red and black one was featured in an online magazine and was built for show use. The fourth is one that I have only seen pic of on www.jeepkj.com . It was brown and sitting on 35's I believe. It may have been on a different frame judging by the pic. It has been so long it could also have been a photochop...Fireblad will be number 5 to my knowledge.

Rock Krawler will be selling a kit in the near future (mid to late summer when I called 3 days ago) that will be a SFA conversion with a 7 inch lift. It will have adjustable coilovers and allow fitment of 33's or 35's with minor trimming...

ARBSeth is currently working on an SFA when he has time... IIRC he mentioned something about offering the brackets for sale. He is running a 14 bolt rear and D60 front I believe...He should have the toughest KJ around.

NomadKJ · **Posted:** Tue May 16, 2006 12:10 am

Does anybody know who made the front bumber on the Liberator?

kickit_in4wheel · **Posted:** Tue May 16, 2006 12:35 am

I wish I knew. That's my favorite KJ bumper out of all the designs I have seen so far.

Infrared06 · **Posted:** Tue May 16, 2006 8:08 am

Unbelievable no one can say that Liberty’s not a Jeep. I can’t wait to see it on the trails, I just hope it is as functional as it looks.

KJ_Dave · **Posted:** Tue May 16, 2006 8:23 am

The front bumper looks a lot like the ARB bumper I saw in their catalog.

KJNick · **Joined:** Mon Jul 11, 2005 12:00 pm **Posts:** 56

Infrared06 wrote:

Unbelievable no one can say that Liberty’s not a Jeep. I can’t wait to see it on the trails, I just hope it is as functional as it looks.

Check out this thread - http://www.lostjeeps.com/forum/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=8528 As someone stated, it was doing everything the TJ's were. BTW, the Liberator was built by Jeep's Skunkworks, so everything's custom built by Jeep. Here's some of the original show pictures - http://www.wjjeeps.com/misc/sema_2003/sema_2003.htm

Lee

DoverKJ · **Posted:** Tue May 16, 2006 10:57 am

The bumper, and most of the components on the KJ, I believe was built by AEV.

KJNick · **Joined:** Mon Jul 11, 2005 12:00 pm **Posts:** 56

The Commander concepts were built by AEV, but the Liberator was built by Jeep. I noticed they installed a Quadra Drive front axle. Isn't this the one used in the Grand & Commander?

Lee

krazz1e · **Posted:** Tue May 16, 2006 2:57 pm

dana 44 rear and a 'quadra trac' front.. hmm. Not really a liberty huh? Any got a d44 in the rear? Sounds like they might have a steel diff up front though, so i guess 35's are possible on our IFS if we can figure out what and how they put the diff in there. Probably loads cheaper than a SFA conversion.

kickit_in4wheel · **Posted:** Tue May 16, 2006 10:35 pm

All I can say is this is what I want. No solid axle, no 4" lift just for 32s, no 7"+ lift that I will need a ladder for. I would be thrilled if I could set my Liberty up just like that. I'd drop to 33s though for more articulation if necessary, but still. Come ON Superlift, get it together!!!!!

pixeldzn · **Posted:** Wed May 17, 2006 7:55 am

kickit_in4wheel wrote:

All I can say is this is what I want. No solid axle, no 4" lift just for 32s, no 7"+ lift that I will need a ladder for. I would be thrilled if I could set my Liberty up just like that. I'd drop to 33s though for more articulation if necessary, but still. Come ON Superlift, get it together!!!!!

My sentiments exactly. No way I am spending $10K to SFA my KJ. I would go out and buy a trail rig XJ or TJ and use my KJ to tow it to the trail before I'd put $10K+ into the KJ. I'll just have to drool over Wally's. Now, $3K(or a figure near that) for a steel front diff, and 33s, thats more up my alley.

From wikipedia:

Quadra-Drive (WJ)

Quadra-Drive employed the New Venture Gear NV247 transfer case. This two-speed chain-driven transfer case uses a gerotor, a clutch pack coupled to a hydraulic pump, to transfer torque between the front and rear axles. The transfer case contains three modes, 4-All Time, Neutral, and 4-Lo. In 4-All Time, 100% of torque is sent to the rear axle in normal conditions. If the rear axle starts spinning at a higher rate than the front axle, hydraulic pressure builds up in the gerotor and causes the clutch pack to progressively transfer torque to the front axle until both axles return to the same speed. Neutral mode is intended for towing the vehicle. In 4-Lo, the front and rear axles are locked together and torque is split evenly between them through a 2.72 reduction gear ratio.
In Quadra-Drive, the NV247 transfer case is mated to front and rear axles containing Jeep's Vari-Lok differentials. Vari-Lok differentials also use a gerotor to transfer torque.
Applications:
Jeep Grand Cherokee (WJ) 1999–2004

Sport · **Posted:** Wed May 17, 2006 1:56 pm

I would definitely consider buying it. A 4 inch lift would do wonders for the KJ but I would not go with the 35's, 32 or 33 would be perfect.

Joe Jeeper · **Posted:** Sat May 20, 2006 7:43 pm

Too bad Superlift canned making the KJ Lift, now the Liberator is only a dream! I'm working on my own Liberator got tired of waiting for you guys at Superlift! Joe

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