looking for purchasing advice

7002ADKNY · **Joined:** Thu Oct 29, 2009 12:02 pm **Posts:** 10

hello hello, I am a current leasee of a 07 liberty sport six speed with a buy out option of $11,000 at 27k miles and i qualify for the lifetime power train warranty. i am 27, single, and hopefully soon to be starting a career with a job lined up but no start date. to me buying the jeep now would be an investment in the future. i do not enjoy driving it, the mpg's are not what i would like to have, but it is useful for towing our boat and for other outdoor activities. with the lifetime warranty i would have a winter beater/daily driver for a lifetime, and then i could buy the project car or sports car i have always wanted and have a reliable daily/family car should i ever get married. i know jeeps last quite long on there own, so in the northeast i picture the liberty rusting away before i could make use of the warranty and thus defeating the purpose of buying new. im not vain and could careless what others think, to me id rather not have a payment but im trying to think as an adult with a need for a reliable newer car for my commute. what do you all think of the "deal"? and really would the warranty ever come into play in 150k?

tommudd · **Posted:** Sat Oct 31, 2009 2:35 pm

Welcome to LOST

BUT in response to your question
Sounds like you have your mind made up anyways
1) I do not enjoy driving it
2) the mpgs are not what I would like to have
3)I picture the Liberty rusting away before I could use the warranty
4)could careless what others think

For me the Lifetime warranty is good for some I guess, have never had anything go wrong to have to ever use any warranty in the last 30 plus years.
Rusting away, mines an 04 with over 130,000 miles and NO RUST. Don't see it rusting away anytime soon.

you need to sit down and think what kind of vehicle you want, what you can afford and go from there. Just from reading what you have posted not sure if you would be happy with a Jeep!

7002ADKNY · **Joined:** Thu Oct 29, 2009 12:02 pm **Posts:** 10

i know i wont be happy with it, but its a very logical decision to keep it. 4x4 for snowy drives to go snowboarding, room for camping gear and the ability to do a little off roading, can tow our boat and handle a kayak should i get one. the immature half of me wants a sports car with 2 seats and no roof, the mature side of me realizes that is a very inappropriate decision for the northeast considering its winter more so then top down weather. i know if i buy it i will wish i didnt and if i dont i will wish i did. what does everyone think of the price at least, seems like 11k is on the cheap side.

Neatus · **Posted:** Sat Oct 31, 2009 3:48 pm

Make the Liberty your project vehicle.....

kskj · **Posted:** Sat Oct 31, 2009 4:02 pm

11k seems like a pretty good price for a kj with 27k. But it's all in what you want. I have the Kj and a Maita, My wife drives the kj most of the time she likes to drive it more and the way she drives :shock:

I would rather see her drive the jeep it's much safer. The Mazda is fun, like to day driving in town at a stop light i just reached up and dropped the top. But it is noisy Rides ruff And most of the time it just sits in the garage. In my house the jeep is what gets driven the most.

7002ADKNY · **Joined:** Thu Oct 29, 2009 12:02 pm **Posts:** 10

the liberty is a necessary evil the more i look at it, not that it is evil or even bad, its just not what i have my heart set on, and sometimes i suppose good things are worth waiting for. i could make the jeep the project but id rather have it as a steady daily with no down time. i really had hopes on getting into hpde's in the spring with an s2000 or something to that effect. if that has to wait or be substituted with a miata instead i can compromise. its just never been my dream car or jeep for that matter, but the price is really hard to pass up especially with the warranty. im a flip flopper on this

tommudd · **Posted:** Sat Oct 31, 2009 7:08 pm

I have been in the same spot a few times but if you have your heart wanting one thing no matter how much sense it makes , or what a great deal it is, you will never be happy in second best. You'll always be kicking yourself!

But then again you may learn to love the Jeep and never ever want to drive anything else! :wink:

Albert · **Posted:** Sat Oct 31, 2009 8:08 pm

Drive it. Kick the tires. Try out the 4x4, and in the end you are the one that must decide and be happy with it.

By the way, if you need to tow, you need the A/T as it is rated at 5,000lbs tow capacity. The Standard is only rated at 3,500lbs tow capacity.

I just back from a 500 mile tow through Pa to upstate NY at 70 mph on the interstate with not even a hiccup (about 4,000lbs total) Towed a mustang on a dolly and it was stuffed full of tools and crap. Got 16mpg on the tow on the interstate at 70mph. Just blew past priuses and stuff....haha

I love mine, but that's me.

LIV42DY · **Posted:** Sat Oct 31, 2009 9:48 pm

Just Endless Endeavors and Possibilites. You need to love your Jeep, You need to trust your Jeep, you need to beleive in your Jeep. After all I have read to you a Jeep is just a 4x4, no offense but I dont think you like it much. Dont buy it and get something else. My 2 cents

Boiler · **Posted:** Sat Oct 31, 2009 11:53 pm

I have no doubt you can find an SUV that you enjoy driving for 11 grand, that will tow, get better milage, and that you like.

Your Jeep will not last like Tom's has, with no rust, if you don't like it. Find something you love, or at least like. That will make it a lot easier to maintain regularly.

As for the warranty, if you maintain it well, the odds are you won't be using the warranty anyway. I'd never buy just for the warranty.

QuestMan · **Posted:** Sun Nov 01, 2009 1:31 am

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As for the warranty, if you maintain it well, the odds are you won't be using the warranty anyway. I'd never buy just for the warranty.

5 years ago, I would have said the same thing. However: In the past year I've had the transmission, tie rods, power steering, two rear O2 sensors, and a sensor in the rear differential replaced. If I didn't have an extended warranty, it would have cost me over $4,000, so...reliability starts going out the door after 70,000 or so in a jeep. If you don't absolutely love one, (it sounds like you don't), then once it starts building 'character', you're going to start resenting it. Once you start resenting a car, you'll blame it for everything, and be miserable. Jeeps and logic have NOTHING in common: The term, "It's a Jeep thing, you WOULDN'T understand!", is a cliche for a reason. When you are stranded in a campground 350 miles from home, at the end of October, in snow and rain, you wait for a tow truck driver to arrive, and the 1st words out of his mouth are, "You! Again!" AND, you still buy another Jeep, then you'll understand.

You don't sound ready to take that sick, twisted step, just yet. :shock:

Sadly, it's too late for me. Save yourself while you still can! :oops:

tommudd · **Posted:** Sun Nov 01, 2009 9:14 am

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so...reliability starts going out the door after 70,000 or so in a jeep.

have to argue that point but to each his own

tjkj2002 · **Posted:** Sun Nov 01, 2009 9:21 am

tommudd wrote:

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so...reliability starts going out the door after 70,000 or so in a jeep.

have to argue that point but to each his own

X2

Buy what you want,you will be much happier in the long run.Buying practical is not the way to go from my personal experience with vehicles.

7002ADKNY · **Joined:** Thu Oct 29, 2009 12:02 pm **Posts:** 10

well i guess my next question would be if i bought it do you think i could turn a profit on it? the buyout price would be about 11,700 after tax. im considering just buying it for the winter and selling it in the spring. i really just need reliable transportation at the moment

tjkj2002 · **Posted:** Tue Nov 03, 2009 12:34 am

7002ADKNY wrote:

well i guess my next question would be if i bought it do you think i could turn a profit on it? the buyout price would be about 11,700 after tax. im considering just buying it for the winter and selling it in the spring. i really just need reliable transportation at the moment

You'll take a loss,it will be at least 1 year older and have more miles which naturally decrease the resale value,no way around that.

7002ADKNY · **Joined:** Thu Oct 29, 2009 12:02 pm **Posts:** 10

well what about right now with the price at 11,700

QuestMan · **Posted:** Wed Nov 04, 2009 12:07 am

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have to argue that point but to each his own

You can argue the point all you want, but...I've owned at least 3 different vehicles that ALL had over 200,000 on them when I either a: drove them to the junk yard, or b: sold them. They ALL were still moving under their own power. I've had MORE mechanical problems in the last 14 mos., with ONE vehicle, than I've had in the last six with with the previous 4. I usually average about 25-27k/year, do my own brakes, oil, tranny, and diff. changes, and have even rebuilt an engine before. I LOVE my liberty, she gets places I couldn't go normally, and does a good job towing the camper while doing it. That said, this thing is less reliable than my '76 postal was. None of the problems have left me dead on the road, yet, but the liberty is NO honda.

I wouldn't want it to be, either. I've never heard of a Honda that can go to Moab, I've never been comfortable in a Honda, (They're designed for people generally not quite as tall as I am), and there's just 'something' about a Jeep that's unique. But, the original question on this post was "Should I keep the Liberty" and, I don't think it would be a good idea, unless you love your Jeep. I don't think that's the case, in this instance. I had very few real warranty issues before 70k, but it seemed like a switch turned on after I hit that number. It's entirely possibly my vehicle is a fluke. It could happen.

For the record, I've 97k on mine now, and I don't plan on getting rid of it, unless I head to a rubicon. (Which, of course is a Jeep, and always a possibility)

p.s. I've got some differential problems, and am SERIOUSLY hoping once I get it fixed, Libby will tone down for a while. But I still love her. She's just a high-maintenance mistress.

JEEPIN36COKK · **Posted:** Wed Nov 04, 2009 10:44 am

Hi there 7002ADKNY. From my vantage point of having owned 3 TJ Jeep Wranglers, 1 90 XJ Cherokee, and 4 different WJ 04 Grand Cherokee's, I have never been stuck, stranded, or hurt by any and I've been T boned in a Wrangler in NJ and rearended in a WJ I still love having my new KK Liberty. Hopefully its window regulators are better than my last WJ though. Even with being really annoyed at times with a few of these vehicles, I still love em and will get another down the road. In my mind you knew/know the answer before you posted. Get something you'll love even when you slam a door and the window regulator dies, thats love. Goes back to that Jeep thing. Maybe they got a vaccine for this. I'm probably already immune!

sleeve84028 · **Posted:** Wed Nov 04, 2009 2:40 pm

Just sell it now if you aren't happy.

Can't change feelings so what is the point.?

7002ADKNY · **Joined:** Thu Oct 29, 2009 12:02 pm **Posts:** 10

we have had 4 grand cherokees and i have enjoyed them all, my personal fave was our 97 and 04, but the hemi was great. id really prefer a grand cherokee instead of the liberty but with the prices of gc's and mileage it just doesnt make sense to not buy the lib with the warranty. after a $60 fill up the other night i dont think i will be buying it unless to turn a profit.

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