Im new to the forum and to this whole upgrading my kj... i am aware that there are links to things like bull bars but i want to know what is a good one to get from personal experiances.... i drive an Atlantic Blue KJ 2004 with black rims so preferably a black bar would be awsome thanks for the help

the bullbars don't stand up to much, but as for that type thing short of a aftermarket steel bumper,

i want to say mopar makes a bar/grill guard that comes up the front and branches out and encircles the headlights, it's black

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03 Renegade (Black)
177k miles 3.7L gas - 45RFE
Command Trac / 4.10s
Lift: ft. 790+ rr. JBA4+
The last of the TrailReady Front&Rear Bumpers and TR Rock Rails
Jarhead Offroad light covers
31x10.5R15 RedLetter Grabbers on Blackrock Dunes
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A bull bar is good for looks and pushing some things around but doesn't help you if you plan to do anything off-road. A proper aftermarket bumper will provide you with better approach angle. It also can handle slamming into rocks or trees better.

You can also get a bumper that you can add a winch to it.

If you have no plans to go hit the trails, then a bull bar is okay.

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I like the look of bull bars too but its mostly for looks... it might intimidate pooky comuters some. If you want a good aftermarket bumper look at ARB, they are about $1100 for the 05-06 KJ not sure of the price for 04.. but you can add a winch and it looks so tough you dont need any bull bar.

Another option that will cost less is Rock lizard, a member here that makes bumpers. He is soon getting out of the business so you need to order from him soon if you want one of his designs.

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Weeks Stage 1 EGR delete, 5 volt steel glow plugs

where are some websites i can find some of this stuff? and thanks for the input

quadratec.com would probably be a good place to start

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03 Renegade (Black)
177k miles 3.7L gas - 45RFE
Command Trac / 4.10s
Lift: ft. 790+ rr. JBA4+
The last of the TrailReady Front&Rear Bumpers and TR Rock Rails
Jarhead Offroad light covers
31x10.5R15 RedLetter Grabbers on Blackrock Dunes
L.O.S.T #KD098632

okay thanks im mostly going for looks cuz i dont really go off roading and i dont have a four by four but i still like the rugged look for the KJ so thats what im going for... i know im a poser lol...