The Belafonte, ....Building a better CRD Version Pics P4

Glend · **Posted:** Sun Feb 14, 2010 6:15 pm

Sounds kind if fishy. Might be a good question for the Tech Section. Surely they have had to reflash these things from time to time.

AUS-KJ · **Joined:** Wed Oct 17, 2007 12:22 am **Posts:** 28

I've had problems with O2 sensors for ~ 8 months now the CEL would go on and the ESP light would flash at the same time. The local jeep dealer could never seems to diagnose what the problem was.
The only effect on the car was occasional delay in acceleration. At one stage they said the catalytic converters were stuffed and replaced them under warranty. The problem went away for a month then came back. then this week it finally completely cacks it and the car runs like a dog. Jerky accelaration and engine sounds like the timing is out. I took it back to the dealer and they now say the o2 sensors need replacement. Fortunately for me even though it's now out of warranty Jeep is coming to the party to pay for the replacement sensors as I reported the problem back when it was under warranty.

Team J.a.G · **Posted:** Tue Feb 16, 2010 11:40 pm

AUS-KJ wrote:

I've had problems with O2 sensors for ~ 8 months now the CEL would go on and the ESP light would flash at the same time. The local jeep dealer could never seems to diagnose what the problem was.
The only effect on the car was occasional delay in acceleration. At one stage they said the catalytic converters were stuffed and replaced them under warranty. The problem went away for a month then came back. then this week it finally completely cacks it and the car runs like a dog. Jerky accelaration and engine sounds like the timing is out. I took it back to the dealer and they now say the o2 sensors need replacement. Fortunately for me even though it's now out of warranty Jeep is coming to the party to pay for the replacement sensors as I reported the problem back when it was under warranty.

Chris I can't believe the issues that you are having with your 04 KJ. No wonder you're frustrated with it :furious:

cmohr · **Posted:** Wed Feb 17, 2010 12:32 am

Thats a worry... I did originally have O2 sensor hassles in the first few months, but the only thing I knoticed was a slightly ruff idle, car still ran fine..Kinda sounds like a bit more than just O2 sensors there...

I have the V6 back again, still have the engine light on, waiting on a decission about the PCM..It does run well, just has the light on.. I'll actually miss it a bit.

Anyone know how to pull out all the windows in these things, I'm almost thinking of that instead of paying $400.00 for windo tinting, esp if I have to pay thousands to fix a car that I'm selling, need to tighten the belt another 4 notches :grim:

Glend · **Posted:** Wed Feb 17, 2010 1:10 am

I'd forget about pulling out the windows its just too likely to result in more heartache (scratched tint, broken windows, torn moldings, etc) & where does it stop? :banghead:

AUS-KJ · **Joined:** Wed Oct 17, 2007 12:22 am **Posts:** 28

Team J.a.G wrote:

AUS-KJ wrote:

I've had problems with O2 sensors for ~ 8 months now the CEL would go on and the ESP light would flash at the same time. The local jeep dealer could never seems to diagnose what the problem was.
The only effect on the car was occasional delay in acceleration. At one stage they said the catalytic converters were stuffed and replaced them under warranty. The problem went away for a month then came back. then this week it finally completely cacks it and the car runs like a dog. Jerky accelaration and engine sounds like the timing is out. I took it back to the dealer and they now say the o2 sensors need replacement. Fortunately for me even though it's now out of warranty Jeep is coming to the party to pay for the replacement sensors as I reported the problem back when it was under warranty.

Chris I can't believe the issues that you are having with your 04 KJ. No wonder you're frustrated with it :furious:

I'm more frustrated with Chrysler than the Jeep.
I just wish it had a bigger boot and a bigger fuel tank and.........
Nah its cool just the way it is.

CMOHR wrote:

Thats a worry... I did originally have O2 sensor hassles in the first few months, but the only thing I knoticed was a slightly ruff idle, car still ran fine..Kinda sounds like a bit more than just O2 sensors there...

Thats how it started with me an occasional rough idle now it's rough all the time.
It gets new sensors tomorrow so will see if it fixes it.

Fouros · **Posted:** Thu Feb 18, 2010 3:39 am

well last week we got this

P0137

Rear Heated Oxygen Sensor Low Voltage

looks like everyones 02 sensors are going

Glend · **Posted:** Thu Feb 18, 2010 8:24 am

Bloody Global Warming, let's get Kevin Rudd on to this as its an obvious sign that CO2 is rising and oxygen levels are dropping across the planet - that might explain my headaches :banghead:

G'ME MUD · **Joined:** Tue Jul 17, 2007 7:55 pm **Posts:** 370

I had to replace my sensors a couple of months ago, one front and one rear had gone south, got all four from RockAuto at my door for a tad over two hundred bucks, runs sweet as.. now.
Wonder if we really need heated sensors in our climate anyway???? I would have thought the exhaust gasses does enough heating within a few seconds of starting up.................
I'm driving the J10 more lately, trying to fight off the next ice age.

cmohr · **Posted:** Thu Feb 18, 2010 4:35 pm

I'll be doin' a little "fiddling" with B1 and B2 this weekend..

Fros, I think I have a spare O2 sensor at home......

cmohr · **Posted:** Fri Feb 19, 2010 4:10 am

And so it begins...

I'm going to start the gut wrenching dissassembly of the mighty KJ known as "The Belafone".. I'm a bit sad. If anyone is hanging aboot and whats to pay some last resects to him your quite welcome to pop on by. I'm hoping to get all the electrical stuff out, ie, duel battery, spotlights, UHF, and the extra wiring I put in to run it all, as well as remove the new transmission cooler. Remove roof racks, Bullbar(might need a hand for that), and all 4 skid plates ( the fuel skid will be fun) I haven't decided whether or not to keep the towbar.. I'll think about that. Hoping to get all the flares off as well so as I can prep them for painting and the rear bumper and tyre holder.

I'm going to have a quiet sit now...... :cry:

Glend · **Posted:** Fri Feb 19, 2010 5:38 am

Move the towbar over - diesels are born to tow (and its your rear recovery point).

cmohr · **Posted:** Fri Feb 19, 2010 9:35 am

New one already has a towbar.

cmohr · **Posted:** Sun Feb 21, 2010 5:09 pm

The old Belafonte isn't half what he used to be after the weekend, A major strip down occured. Gone is the Duel battery system and wiring, gone the UHF, gone the Spotlights and wiring, Gone the roof rack and crossrails, gone engine, transmission, transfer case and fuel tank skids, Gone the towbar. Gone is the Bullbar, gone are all the Flares, the front wheel well plastic liners and the complete rear bumper. I also pulled out that big Transmission cooler I put in a few weeks ago. Its a bit sad.

This week I'll atempt to get the flares painted Stone white to match the CRD in readiness for the big "switch over all the flares and front and rear bars . I'll remove the front plastic liners from the CRD and get the pinch weld flatterned, plus I'll try to get the upper control arm pockets openned up a little for the Als A-arms. I'll remove the suspension and the A-arms from the V6, and replace the rear boomerang with my spare one, and keep the good one as a spare for the CRD. Plus I'll start wiring in all the duel battery and UHF and spotlights into the CRD.

So Its started, I have a few pics to put up, I'll do that tonite when I's gets home.

2JeepFamily · **Posted:** Wed Feb 24, 2010 3:13 am

So Its started, I have a few pics to put up, I'll do that tonite when I's gets home.[/quote]

where is pics Chris, I have been waitng to see the progress.

cmohr · **Posted:** Wed Feb 24, 2010 8:12 am

Gotta get my camera out to upload pics.. Been busy downstairs.

I've finished undercoating the flares tonite, now they are sanded and primed. I've found that Autobarn are able to mix the actual paint colour code for me, in spray cans.. 29.00 each can tho... should get away with three cans. I'll get them tommorrow. So with luck, and weather permitting, I may....MAY,,,,, be changing over all the flares and bumpers this weekend. Just need a big arse drill and drill bit to drill the mount holes in the frame for the ARB bar.

mikey · **Posted:** Wed Feb 24, 2010 5:09 pm

Holy Cow cmohr,
Did I read right, you're pulling the donk & tranny out of B1? :dizzy:

Have I missed something here???
Mate, I'm around for the next few days if you need a hand with the bullbar etc, no probs.
M.

cmohr · **Posted:** Wed Feb 24, 2010 7:13 pm

mikey wrote:

Holy Cow cmohr,
Did I read right, you're pulling the donk & tranny out of B1? :dizzy:

Have I missed something here???
Mate, I'm around for the next few days if you need a hand with the bullbar etc, no probs.
M.

WHOA WHOA WHOA there Big Doggie, I dont remember saying that???????.I was referring to the skid plates... :lol:

If I gets the Flares painted Tonite/Friday, I hope I can put on the flares, rear bumper and Bullbar on B2 this weekend. As well as switch the Towbars (as the old one on the CRD does not look to be as strong construction as the one I pulled off B1.) as well as put on the feul tank skid.

Anyone want a big arse Transmission cooler for their auto. I guarantee it works.

cmohr · **Posted:** Fri Feb 26, 2010 11:06 pm

Not happy with all the rain today... cant do a thing.... :furious:

Team J.a.G · **Posted:** Sat Feb 27, 2010 12:15 am

cmohr wrote:

Not happy with all the rain today... cant do a thing.... :furious:

Yes ...it's a bit Borrr..ring :roll:

So I've ordered a new /replacement radiator as the original has a small crack in the top L/H tank which at present slowly bleeds water. Free delivery from Sydney to Dannys' workshop. Hopefully it will be delivered & waiting for him Monday morning after his week-end at Rover Park :wink:

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