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 Post subject: Lift and Tire Question
PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 3:22 pm 
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So I just ordered my full OME suspension setup and 4 Teraflex extended bump stops (2 for each front) from Jeepinbyal.
Is there anything I am missing?
I shouldn't need anything else for right now right..like new UCAs or rear bump stops?
I won't be taking it offroad for awhile so I figured I wouldn't need all that.
Last question...how big of a tire can I fit without rubbing?
I have the stock 235/65/17 right now.
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 Post subject: Re: Lift and Tire Question
PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 3:33 pm 
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Some time you will need to get some rear bump stops. Believe it or not hockey pucks work great and are cheap. As for the tire size it all depends on if you want to pound over your pinch welds in the front or not. In the tire section you will find a chart of what size will fit with what results etc.

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 Post subject: Re: Lift and Tire Question
PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 4:21 pm 
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Okay, i'll ask around since I am not a very handy person to see if anyone can help me with the hockey pucks.
I checked out the chart. Thanks again.
Hopefully, it'll all be in soon. :BANANA:


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 Post subject: Re: Lift and Tire Question
PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 4:26 pm 
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My Renny has the OME lift kit installed. Whoever did the lift did not install rear bump stops. I wish they had. Whenever I flex too much my rear tires scrape the fender. Do yourself a favor. Install the hockey pucks like Terry suggests. They are cheap online and should be easy to install while you are doing the lift. Now I am going to have to remove the rear springs so that I can install the pucks.

I have 255 70 16 tires and they may be a little too much for the OME lift. The welds have been hammered down and need to be. I have heated and pushed the front fender liners in, but the tires still rub in the front when I am backing and turning sharply. I think that 245 75's would have been a better choice.

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 Post subject: Re: Lift and Tire Question
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onebaucom wrote:
Okay, i'll ask around since I am not a very handy person to see if anyone can help me with the hockey pucks.
I checked out the chart. Thanks again.
Hopefully, it'll all be in soon. :BANANA:


Do a search. I believe Budke posted a great how-to on this with excellent pictures. I will be using his posting to do mine.

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 Post subject: Re: Lift and Tire Question
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Alright, will do.
I have a friend that is a mechanic that is doing all of this.
I was thinking the 245/75/17.
Thanks for the input.


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 4:43 pm 
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I'll be down in Norfolk here in about 2 months. I'll give ya a hand when I get down there if you haven't gotten it knocked out before then. As far as tire size. Check out the tire section. Stickied there is a great chart about what tire size fits. a 245/75/16 is a safe bet and what most run when lifted.

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 Post subject: Re: Lift and Tire Question
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You ordered 4 Teraflex bumpstops? Maybe its a Typo I got mine from Al's to and you only need 2.


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onebaucom wrote:
4 Teraflex extended bump stops (2 for each front) from Jeepinbyal.


Just caught that. There are only 2 needed, one on the port side, one on the starboard.

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 Post subject: Re: Lift and Tire Question
PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 9:05 pm 
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I asked and he said I would need two for each side.
I thought it was off too but I listen to the pros so I went with it.
I get it all put on in May and if I don't have the rear hockey pucks done I might take you up on that offer Daspes.
Thanks, I appreciate it, by the way.
On that note...anyone need two bump stops? =]


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 1:55 am 
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ran 255-70's before lift with no spacers, and after lift with spacers, rubbed the pinch pretty good pre-pound

after pound just barely rubbed at full lock

they were michelin style AP tires, didn't have a single problem with them other than the weak sidewall wiggle due to a heavy arse jeep on passenger style tires

had they not had the weak sidewall that really got on my nerves, i probably wouldn't have gotten the 245-75 E' mud tires

i actually liked the 255-70 profile better than the 245-75

255-70 is a odd arse size to find decent tires in though

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 Post subject: Re: Lift and Tire Question
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JeepinJarhead03 wrote:
ran 255-70's before lift with no spacers, and after lift with spacers, rubbed the pinch pretty good pre-pound

after pound just barely rubbed at full lock

they were michelin style AP tires, didn't have a single problem with them other than the weak sidewall wiggle due to a heavy arse jeep on passenger style tires

had they not had the weak sidewall that really got on my nerves, i probably wouldn't have gotten the 245-75 E' mud tires

i actually liked the 255-70 profile better than the 245-75

255-70 is a odd arse size to find decent tires in though


Maybe it is just the style tire I have, but the Firestone Destination AT's that I have do rub the front of the wheel well when I am backing up at a sharp angle. They have a pretty square shoulder so that the tread runs all the way to the edge of the tire without rounding off. Most of the Michelin's I have seen have a rounded shoulder. Perhaps that was the difference.

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 Post subject: Re: Lift and Tire Question
PostPosted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 9:14 am 
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jimymc wrote:
onebaucom wrote:
Okay, i'll ask around since I am not a very handy person to see if anyone can help me with the hockey pucks.
I checked out the chart. Thanks again.
Hopefully, it'll all be in soon. :BANANA:


Do a search. I believe Budke posted a great how-to on this with excellent pictures. I will be using his posting to do mine.


Not sure if I posted the how-to here or not, but its located here for sure.
http://www.jeepkj.com/forum/showthread.php?t=43989

An alternative that someone mentioned was get a rubber mallet and cut it in half for rear bumpstops.

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 Post subject: Re: Lift and Tire Question
PostPosted: Wed Mar 31, 2010 9:35 am 
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Jimmy--
We're running 245 75 16's on our 2003 lifted Rennie, with pounded pinch welds, on Firestone Destination MT's and there's no rub, even when turning slowly and sharply in a tight spot.

These also have the squared shoulder you mentioned. We didn't install our lift, but it's somewhere around 2.5 - 3 inches.

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Extended front bumpstops are for suckers.

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 Post subject: Re: Lift and Tire Question
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well i got it all taken care of.
i got some strut spacers and he is given me a refund for the two bump stops.
should be in around the third week of april! :BANANA:
parental units are worried about me spending this kind of money.
asking what if i get in a wreck on all this money goes down the drain..
oh well. guess i am gonna be broke. :shock:


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Seriously though..... You don't need extended front bumpstops.

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 Post subject: Re: Lift and Tire Question
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haulin5 wrote:
Jimmy--
We're running 245 75 16's on our 2003 lifted Rennie, with pounded pinch welds, on Firestone Destination MT's and there's no rub, even when turning slowly and sharply in a tight spot.

These also have the squared shoulder you mentioned. We didn't install our lift, but it's somewhere around 2.5 - 3 inches.


Yeah, but the 255's are a wider tire. It is just the forward edge of the tire that is rubbing the fender well and fog light doors when backing at sharp angles. The 245 75 16's are taller by a tiny bit, but they are not as wide.

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JL Rockies wrote:
Seriously though..... You don't need extended front bumpstops.


well i would rather go ahead and spend the 40 bucks than have to spend the 750 again if something messes up. :wink:


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JL Rockies wrote:
Seriously though..... You don't need extended front bumpstops.


well i would rather go ahead and spend the 40 bucks than have to spend the 750 again if something messes up. :wink:



Don't worry when it messes up JL will be right there helping you fix it. Check book and all.

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