Manuel CRD

mrb91 · **Joined:** Wed Mar 31, 2010 12:34 pm **Posts:** 23

Has anyone installed the nsg370 manuel six speed into their Liberty. I know the gas v6 Liberty was available with the six speed, and overseas you can get a Wrangler 2.8 CRD manuel. So this trans can fit both engine and vehicle body, so has anyone done it?

JL Rockies · **Posted:** Tue Apr 06, 2010 4:30 pm

I think that the manuel tranny is only available in Spain. :-)r

ATXKJ · **Posted:** Tue Apr 06, 2010 5:52 pm

mackruss had one in South Africa......

you'd probably have to have a clutch from Europe and computers programmed to work together.
actually I think Bursnville has done it http://www.burnsvilleoffroad.com/

JL Rockies · **Posted:** Tue Apr 06, 2010 6:24 pm

sense of humor FAIL :jester:

warp2diesel · **Posted:** Tue Apr 06, 2010 7:41 pm

The manual can't handle the full torque of the CRD engine with out the engine being being detuned.
In fact the CRD has so much torque that they F37ed the ECM (dropped HP from 165 to 148) and TCM (raised shift points) so it would not destroy the torque converter.
SunCoast came up with a heavy duty torque converter to handle the HP/torque capability.
SunCoast also came up with a front pump fix that gets rid of the lock up clutch chatter with out replacing the pump.
Later on Chrysler came up with the J8/Euro Torque converter, not as strong as SunCoast but cheaper, yup cheaper.

cmohr · **Posted:** Tue Apr 06, 2010 8:27 pm

I have a 2002 2.5lt CRD 5 speed manual, its great, no detune, plenty of torque. Pipeliner has a 2.8 6 speed manual with that gearbox, masses of power. I watched Pipeliners CRD crawl up a steep rocky track towing a 1.3 ton off road camper trailer, did it with ease. Both Aussie KJ's.

warp2diesel · **Posted:** Tue Apr 06, 2010 9:09 pm

cmohr wrote:

I have a 2002 2.5lt CRD 5 speed manual, its great, no detune, plenty of torque. Pipeliner has a 2.8 6 speed manual with that gearbox, masses of power. I watched Pipeliners CRD crawl up a steep rocky track towing a 1.3 ton off road camper trailer, did it with ease. Both Aussie KJ's.

Check the posted specs, Chrysler turns down the HP and Torque on the Manuals.
Your Ausie 2.8L manual version may have more HP & Torque than the US/Canada F37ed version.

flman · **Posted:** Wed Apr 07, 2010 7:14 am

JL Rockies wrote:

I think that the manuel tranny is only available in Spain. :-)r

Manuel the dish washer at the diner has one in his CRD as well :mrgreen:

GreenDieselEngineering · **Joined:** Sun Jun 07, 2009 5:10 pm **Posts:** 1111

The manual KJ with the nsg370 sold overseas has a torque limit applied mainly in gears 1 through 3. The max allowed torque at 3000 rpm is roughly 300-315 nm and at 4000 rpm it is around 200-220 nm. In gears 4-6 more torque is allowed.

The f37'd CRD in the US has less allowable torque than the MTX version in gears 3-5 from 1500-3000 rpm, but everywhere else the ATX has higher peak torque than the MTX. Ideally it would be nice to have a manual box that did not require any torque limiting, but this would require much more retrofitting to get something to fit correctly.

If Jeep were to bring the diesel back to the US market, they would be pleasantly surprised with the sales demand...if the application was executed properly. A little advertising would not hurt either!

onthehunt · **Posted:** Wed Apr 07, 2010 1:12 pm

I just read an article stating they were coming out with a wrangler crd late this year...

ac5501 · **Posted:** Wed Apr 07, 2010 3:54 pm

onthehunt wrote:

I just read an article stating they were coming out with a wrangler crd late this year...

Link Please?

racertracer · **Posted:** Wed Apr 07, 2010 6:10 pm

JL Rockies wrote:

I think that the manuel tranny is only available in Spain. :-)r

I just got the funny..... Lmao

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