H.I.D. Lighting for liberty

myfirstjeep02 · **Posted:** Mon Apr 26, 2010 6:43 pm

Has anyone used the H.I.D headlight kit from these guys and if so was it a fairly easy install ?, and if not, is there one that is better?

http://www.mosaicmotorsports.com/xenon- ... 33694.html

mag03kj · **Posted:** Mon Apr 26, 2010 7:00 pm

Try these guys they are pretty cheap. Also look and work great!
http://www.ddmtuning.com/index.php?p=pr ... 1&parent=0

Fulltimer · **Posted:** Tue Apr 27, 2010 4:31 pm

mag03kj wrote:

Try these guys they are pretty cheap. Also look and work great!
http://www.ddmtuning.com/index.php?p=pr ... 1&parent=0

Are these the type you are running? If so, what wattage etc.?

Terry

mag03kj · **Posted:** Tue Apr 27, 2010 4:33 pm

Terry I aint bought one yet. But its what the crd boys had at the M&G. But when i do order it will be the 35w.

JustinP · **Posted:** Tue Apr 27, 2010 5:07 pm

I know a little bit about HID lighting, the components, install, pros/cons, etc. but im unsure on the heat they produce. I know they produce better light with less power, but do they run hotter as a trade off?? Sorry to somewhat hijack your thread with another ???, but it seemed like a useful one.

timmyb457 · **Posted:** Tue Apr 27, 2010 5:09 pm

no they dont run hotter. and they work really well with the kj headlights i used to have some

mag03kj · **Posted:** Tue Apr 27, 2010 5:22 pm

JustinP wrote:

I know a little bit about HID lighting, the components, install, pros/cons, etc. but im unsure on the heat they produce. I know they produce better light with less power, but do they run hotter as a trade off?? Sorry to somewhat hijack your thread with another ???, but it seemed like a useful one.

The link i posted is all plug and play! No cutting wires or splicing!

myfirstjeep02 · **Posted:** Tue Apr 27, 2010 5:52 pm

thanks for the info about plug and play connections, thats crucial i'm pretty handy but i think i still may get a professional to install them.

infernicus · **Posted:** Thu Apr 29, 2010 5:49 pm

myfirstjeep02 wrote:

...i still may get a professional to install them.

Don't.. it's too easy.
Here's a link to a post a while back..
viewtopic.php?p=550027#p550027

In that post is a link to a good kit to buy off of ebay..

tjkj2002 · **Posted:** Thu Apr 29, 2010 6:15 pm

Just remember they are illegal and many of those kits have major issues and cause major issues to your vehicle systems.

infernicus · **Posted:** Thu Apr 29, 2010 6:26 pm

Very true, here's from another post..

infernicus wrote:

Definitely read this page first though
http://www.danielsternlighting.com/tech ... sions.html
(Courtesy of FreedomKJ)

I thought it was in the other one I posted :oops:

JustinP · **Posted:** Thu Apr 29, 2010 6:51 pm

I love the way HIDs look. However the more i think about it, its not worth the extra attention it attracts. I started realizing i took extra notice in every vehicle that i passed this morning with the HID "retro" kit. If i noticed it half asleep at 520 this morning, Im sure the police notice all the time. Having them is just one extra reason to get pulled over. IMHO. I would however, consider HIDs for aux lighting. maybe a nice yellow to cut through the thick fog. Just my :2cents:

infernicus · **Posted:** Thu Apr 29, 2010 7:00 pm

Now I know they are illegal in pretty much every state. But I'm not sure about the law enforcement in other states.. Here in NYC, they can care less. I haven't been pulled over for my lights.. I've been behind cops driving or at red lights, and they haven't stopped me.. when I was stopped for other reasons (I'm not perfect) they never mentioned it.. Also as a rough estimate, about 30% of the cars on the road have the HID's, some done nicely, others not so much.. All halogen headlights are terrible for HID's.. some worse than others. The KJ isn't that bad. On a '97 Dodge van, its a joke, it blinds everyone, even planes overhead. Had to realigned the headlights pretty much facing the ground for it to be even remotely acceptable.
-But on that note, to each his own, I enjoy my HID's, I choose to use them, sorry.

tjkj2002 · **Posted:** Thu Apr 29, 2010 7:44 pm

infernicus wrote:

Now I know they are illegal in pretty much every state. But I'm not sure about the law enforcement in other states.. Here in NYC, they can care less. I haven't been pulled over for my lights.. I've been behind cops driving or at red lights, and they haven't stopped me.. when I was stopped for other reasons (I'm not perfect) they never mentioned it.. Also as a rough estimate, about 30% of the cars on the road have the HID's, some done nicely, others not so much.. All halogen headlights are terrible for HID's.. some worse than others. The KJ isn't that bad. On a '97 Dodge van, its a joke, it blinds everyone, even planes overhead. Had to realigned the headlights pretty much facing the ground for it to be even remotely acceptable.
-But on that note, to each his own, I enjoy my HID's, I choose to use them, sorry.

Yeah you types blind the hell out of me all the time,since Iraq that type of light kinda triggers the bad side in me(and bad memories).It bothers me and I'm much higher up then most,but I get even since I'll let those dropped honda's pass me and then get to sit behind them at a red light with my 700,000 candle power KC HID long range lights pointed right in the rear view mirror,and I'll offset myself just a bit so one points also in the drivers side mirror and the lights take forever to change here in CO at night.

JeepinJarhead03 · **Posted:** Thu Apr 29, 2010 7:47 pm

X2

and add on that ive had one too many concussion and my eyes don't dilate properly anymore

JustinP · **Posted:** Thu Apr 29, 2010 7:57 pm

Infernicus, Dont be sorry. It doesnt bother me at all. You are right tho, about the KJ not being that bad with HIDs. I pass one on the way to work every now and then, Theyre running, I would guess around 10000k-12000k, as they are very purple, and they look really good. Not really overwhelming at all as far as scattered light. I love the look, and the light for that matter. I just don't think theyre right for me. Just adding input to help someone make an informed decision. Its good to know what youre getting before you buy.

Infernicus, Im very envious of your 6speed.

infernicus · **Posted:** Thu Apr 29, 2010 8:07 pm

The purple HID's are actually less intrusive then standard halogen because of light output, the purple does nothing for lighting, lol.

( not to thread jack, but if the KJ was an auto, I prob wouldn't like it as much, I had a loaner and it was boring *womp* .. I actually went out today for some amazing trails (for NY standards) and it was fun for sure )

Shreknow91 · **Posted:** Sat May 01, 2010 11:20 pm

infernicus wrote:

Now I know they are illegal in pretty much every state. But I'm not sure about the law enforcement in other states.. Here in NYC, they can care less. I haven't been pulled over for my lights.. I've been behind cops driving or at red lights, and they haven't stopped me.. when I was stopped for other reasons (I'm not perfect) they never mentioned it.. Also as a rough estimate, about 30% of the cars on the road have the HID's, some done nicely, others not so much.. All halogen headlights are terrible for HID's.. some worse than others. The KJ isn't that bad. On a '97 Dodge van, its a joke, it blinds everyone, even planes overhead. Had to realigned the headlights pretty much facing the ground for it to be even remotely acceptable.
-But on that note, to each his own, I enjoy my HID's, I choose to use them, sorry.

Im pretty sure H.I.D. 's themselves aren't illegal, just the drop in kits that don't use a new reflector housing, something about it not setting the right angles on the lights, and blinding oncoming drivers... just look at any ricer-mobile...

JustinP · **Posted:** Sun May 02, 2010 2:06 pm

Shreknow91 wrote:

infernicus wrote:

Now I know they are illegal in pretty much every state. But I'm not sure about the law enforcement in other states.. Here in NYC, they can care less. I haven't been pulled over for my lights.. I've been behind cops driving or at red lights, and they haven't stopped me.. when I was stopped for other reasons (I'm not perfect) they never mentioned it.. Also as a rough estimate, about 30% of the cars on the road have the HID's, some done nicely, others not so much.. All halogen headlights are terrible for HID's.. some worse than others. The KJ isn't that bad. On a '97 Dodge van, its a joke, it blinds everyone, even planes overhead. Had to realigned the headlights pretty much facing the ground for it to be even remotely acceptable.
-But on that note, to each his own, I enjoy my HID's, I choose to use them, sorry.

Im pretty sure H.I.D. 's themselves aren't illegal, just the drop in kits that don't use a new reflector housing, something about it not setting the right angles on the lights, and blinding oncoming drivers... just look at any ricer-mobile...

That is correct, HIDs aren't illegal, most newer cars have at least an option for them from the factory. I believe all DOT approved HID headlights have leveling motors in them to adjust the angle of the reflector so not to blind oncoming traffic. those kits are big money. But the drop in bulb and ballast are illegal. (at least every state I've been)

myfirstjeep02 · **Posted:** Mon May 03, 2010 1:17 pm

well thanks for the help, I was just toying with the idea, here in sc they could care less about vehicle modifications as long as you don't act like a jackass when you get pulled. but I suppose since all my lights still work well, the money will go to other mods.

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