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 Post subject: Re: Gas Mileage Tips or Tricks?
PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 2:16 pm 
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I just did a long road trip to Phoenix and back from Seattle. I took off my antenna and folded in my mirrors. I set my cruise at 60 MPH (1760 RPM) and I was getting 34+ MPG.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 12:34 am 
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WOW i'm getting 12.5 mpg and all i have is a lift and light rack, hrrrm....makes me wonder

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 Post subject: Re: Gas Mileage Tips or Tricks?
PostPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 7:14 pm 
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its a way to drive
the cruise control is actually a bad thing to use it cant read the road like the driver can ....
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skinny tires do better than wider tires
lower does bettwer than lifted

My gasser gets 18-20 mpg (that is miles divided by gallons )
also drive with the miles per gallon display on the overhead on and keep an eye on it ....this helps

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 Post subject: Re: Gas Mileage Tips or Tricks?
PostPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 8:33 pm 
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the cruise control is actually a bad thing to use it cant read the road like the driver can ....


I agree with your assessment except for this. The average human will (and most people do) oscillate the pedal up and down, up and down up and down. People waste way more fuel doing that than any small issues the cruise control might or might not have. I use the cruise evertime I drive my truck.

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 Post subject: Re: Gas Mileage Tips or Tricks?
PostPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 8:36 pm 
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Just drive it like you stole it,it's a Jeep,have fun.MPG's should never be on your mind in a Jeep.

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 Post subject: Re: Gas Mileage Tips or Tricks?
PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 1:06 pm 
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Yeah my EVIC, says im running about 14mpg and has not really changed with the switch to MTRS, maybe 1mpg. I would like to try new spark plugs and/or battery to increase MPGs, although im not too concerned with dropping cash for gas.

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 Post subject: Re: Gas Mileage Tips or Tricks?
PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 10:51 am 
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Georgia Repo man hit it on the head. I ran into a trucker at a rest stop two years ago and struck up conversation as there was an accident up the road. He told me his company had just sent over 200 drivers to school to relearn how to drive. There are a couple of things that are easy: 1. Cruise control is a killer and works in opposite as to what will increase your milage. For instance, when climbing a hill, cruise control will accelerate to maintain speed and close the throttle going downhill. This is the worst scenario from a gas milage standpoint. It is far more efficient to accelerate going downhill and to let momentum carry you as far up a hill as possible. So... 2. Give yourself 10 mph leeway from your target. Lets say you are going 70. When approaching a hill, relax from the accelerator a little and let the momentum carry you up until you are 60 mph. Then hold 60. When going down the other side, accelerate lightly until you reach 80, and try to time it so that you are at 70 again when it flattens out or transitions to a hill again.

The rest is important too: wieght, tire pressure, aerodynamics, etc.

I tried this with my Audi a6. Before I used to average 19.5 (on the computer) for a tank (hwy and city). Afterwards, it jumped to 24.2 (where it usually stays unless going on a trip). That is nearly a 20% increase in milage or better yet, a 20% decrease in fuel cost. I also coast in nuetral whenever it is safe.

The habit has become second nature now and I don't even think about doing it. The Audi was nice because it had a milage calculator computer on board and you could watch instantaneous and averages. Try it!

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 Post subject: Re: Gas Mileage Tips or Tricks?
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 Post subject: Re: Gas Mileage Tips or Tricks?
PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 9:27 pm 
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Just drive it like you stole it,it's a Jeep,have fun.MPG's should never be on your mind in a Jeep.

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So you say, but they CAN be if you drive a CRD! Why not get the best of both worlds? Why throw money away?

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 Post subject: Re: Gas Mileage Tips or Tricks?
PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 11:58 pm 
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tjkj2002 wrote:
Just drive it like you stole it,it's a Jeep,have fun.MPG's should never be on your mind in a Jeep.

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So you say, but they CAN be if you drive a CRD! Why not get the best of both worlds? Why throw money away?

I'm actually saving money by not having a CRD,less maintenance and shoddy parts to worry about :ROTFL: .

And actually that is the honest truth.

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I also coast in nuetral whenever it is safe.
Never coast in "N" in a newer FI vehicle,wastes more gas then saves.Leave it in gear with your foot of the gas,this triggers the fuel cutoff so you are using zero gas.In "N" this will not happen and your still burning gas with the engine at idle.


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 Post subject: Re: Gas Mileage Tips or Tricks?
PostPosted: Sat Jun 12, 2010 10:23 am 
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Georgia Repo man hit it on the head. I ran into a trucker at a rest stop two years ago and struck up conversation as there was an accident up the road. He told me his company had just sent over 200 drivers to school to relearn how to drive. There are a couple of things that are easy: 1. Cruise control is a killer and works in opposite as to what will increase your milage. For instance, when climbing a hill, cruise control will accelerate to maintain speed and close the throttle going downhill. This is the worst scenario from a gas milage standpoint. It is far more efficient to accelerate going downhill and to let momentum carry you as far up a hill as possible. So... 2. Give yourself 10 mph leeway from your target. Lets say you are going 70. When approaching a hill, relax from the accelerator a little and let the momentum carry you up until you are 60 mph. Then hold 60. When going down the other side, accelerate lightly until you reach 80, and try to time it so that you are at 70 again when it flattens out or transitions to a hill again.


Enjoy the speeding ticket while your at it!

"Honest officer, I was just speeding down this hill so that I can get better gas mileage" :-)r

Getting fuel mileage out of hills is impossible no matter how hard you try. Your best bet to deal with hills is to get your vehicle into a gear where the motor is turning over a decent RPM to climb the hill without issue and then go from there.

There are a couple hills around me that are pretty big as your are climbing the Niagara escarpment. I will simply hit the O/D off button once I start the climb and let the Jeep go to work from there. Motor is usually turning over around 2300-2400 rpm climbing the hill and the cruise control is still set at 60 mph. The Jeep climbs hill without issue and the transmission isn't hunting for a gear all the way up the hill.

As well, cruise control does improve gas mileage:
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Using cruise control on the highway, though, really does have a noticeable effect on fuel economy. In Edmunds.com's test using a Land Rover LR3 and a Ford Mustang, the Land Rover got almost 14 percent better mileage using cruise control set at 70 miles per hour rather than cruising at driver-controlled speeds between 65 and 75 miles per hour. The Mustang got 4.5 percent better mileage.

Using cruise control cuts down on unnecessary speed changes which can eat up gas and it prevents "speed creep." the tendency for a driver's average speed to gradually increase with time spent on the road. (In that way, it can save you from an expensive speeding ticket, as well.)

http://money.cnn.com/2006/05/01/Autos/d ... /index.htm

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 Post subject: Re: Gas Mileage Tips or Tricks?
PostPosted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 3:40 pm 
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Engine load. Is your A/C on? Do you have a clutch driven fan? Is your air filter clogged? All these things increase load on the engine. Try ditching the fan and installing an electric fan. Around town and on 55 MPH highways, roll the windows down and turn the A/C off.


This has been studied pretty extensively, and AC being a big mileage killer is a bit of a myth. It may reduce mileage by around 1mpg. Also, I believe (and I'll try to find it if I have time) that it was found that rolling the windows down has as big or slightly bigger negative effect on gas mileage (at highway speeds) than does the AC, because of aerodynamic efficiencly loss.

In general, if it's hot out, just use your ac. I've got a year of gas mileage trend for every tank I've filled the KJ up with, and generally, my mileage goes up in the summer when I'm using my AC. I attribute this to the fact that the O2 sensors and engine come up to temp faster leading to more efficient running on shorter trips.

I agree with you that tires are a major factor, especially if you go bigger than the OEM group.

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