Which is the more off road capable vehicle?

I am kind of disappointed with my liberty and almost want to trade it in for a wrangler... I do not even off road but i would like to in the future.

The liberty is a bit more practical of a vehicle for every day use but the wrangler 4 door seems very appealing to me overall.

The one thing i noticed is that for the most part, the 4wd wranglers are manual transmission vs automatic in the liberty.

The wrangler also seems a little more off road capable without any modifications.

The Wrangler is WAY more capable off road then a Liberty. A lifted Liberty is still not as capable as a stock Wrangler in my opinion and wont be without serious modification. There are lots of auto and manual Wranglers and only a few manual KKs cause it was only available in 08.

ur comparing a corvette to a vx bug buddy.

Solid axle to IFS.

granted the liberty is great offroad, there are still some places it well not go in stock form or mildly modded that a stock wrangler well go. A midly modded wrangler well go pretty much anywhere that a heavily modded liberty can go. Now a heavily modded wrangler well the liberty would not stand a chance. I don't know how the SFA ones do yet, since I have not finished my girl's, but they seem way more capable after getting rid of that ifs bombshell

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2005 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon TJ- Impact Orange
4'' RK LA, 35's KM2's, Warn front bumper, Warn rear bumper with tire swing, Warn gas skid, Nth oil skid, 4.88's, Alloy axles shafts F&R, Rokmen Corner armor with led's, and Rokmen sliders, custom back-up lights from gen-right, piaa 510's, IPF green glow fatboy's up front.

Ya this is not a fair comparison at all but I had a 2dr wrangler and modded it which was awsome for people to look at but it road like crap. I then put it back to stock but it still wasnt good at being a daily driver. i traded it for my liberty and i love the choice i made. but if i could have afforded it as a second vehicle then i would have deffinetly kept it, but being a poor college student i needed one car that was pratical

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3.5in RK lift
245/75/16 firestone destination MT
16in cragar soft 8s
black horse grill guard
2 hella 500s

When I was looking to return to the Jeep name back in late 07', (I had a 98 Grand Cher Ltd w/ V8) I had to factor in practicality having kids, large dog, toys to tow, cost ..etc. The Libby just had a few more +'s over the Wrangler Unlimited 4dr I was considering for my needs. I don't regret the choice at all. Having said that, I would like to have a Wrangler when the kids are grown and the towables are down sized. My son (11) has already declared he wants a Wrangler when he is old enough to drive. More like when he is old enough to hold a job and buy one himself. He can stay on my insurance for the time being . Two different vehicles. Both do an excellent job for what they are meant for. There are some pretty amazingly modded Libbys out there though. Eventually, I'd like to add some rock rails and maybe a roof rack (if Boiler wants to makes one for the KK he can use mine for a test mule) and then I'll be done with the mods. Yeah, Right!

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08 Liberty Sport,Red Rock
4spd auto, 2.5" JBA lift w/ 5.5 UCAs, Bilstiens, MOPAR skids, JCR stage 2 rock rails, Cooper AT3's 255/70/16
Tow Pkg, Frnt tow hooks, Thule roof bars/canoe and kayak carrier, sunroof, pet divider, 115lbs lab

ya after i got the liberty i wasnt gunna mod it after my experience with the wrangler, but sure enough after the first trail i went down i cracked my rear bumper and then the jeep fever kicked in now i just put all my money in the jeep, beer, and school. (in that order of course )

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3.5in RK lift
245/75/16 firestone destination MT
16in cragar soft 8s
black horse grill guard
2 hella 500s

A stock Wrangler(non-Rubicon) and a stock KK are actually about the same offroad,more so if that Wrangler is the 4 door version.Really little difference really.

Now a stock Wrangler Rubicon has a advantage due to the F/R lockers and the 4:1 t-case.

X2 on TJKJ's comment + there is few difference between them Price, MPG, aftermarket availability and cost.

If you go w a Rubicon the price will increase drastically at least here in WA around 30k for the Rubicon that would be an additional 10k around the KK w the difference you could modify your KK to a very capable off-road vehicle, maybe even fab a SFA. The Unlimited X is not so much of a difference probably around 3k so w that in mind you could get the 4" lift from JBA. Now if you would just like to get rid of your KK you could still buy an Unlimited and modify it w kits that would be very cost effective because of the aftermarket. If it was me and I had the money I would have the Wrangler Rubicon, hands down. Rubicon has what you need to go where others won't, that is why it cost more, you don't have to modify it, Mopar has done it for you.
Last thought, go test drive the 4door Wrangler (Unlimited or Unlimited Rubicon) See what you think if you love it more than your KK and you can get a good deal, trade it, cause you will never be happy if you would prefer the Wrangler over the KK no matter how many mods you make to make it more capable.

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08 Jeep KK Blue. Currently Stock.

daspes needs to get in on this topic he owns a pretty heavily modified liberty with ifs and a wrangler unlimited that is also pretty modified and from what i remember him saying the liberty wheeled better them the wrangler....call me crazy but take it from the horses mouth. wither way i would love to have a wrangler unlimited but once again kids and suck have the priority over my toys especially since my other car is pretty modified also even for a family sedan.

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2006 liberty 65th edition
Sylvania Silver Star Ultra II headlights
K&N FIPKII intake
Sony headunit with I-pod hookup
OME/Rancho lift
Kumho Road Venture AT's 245/75 16's
OEM front skid
Jet Chip stage 1
on the list:
custom exhaust
the rest of the skids
roof rack
lights
and the list goes on

I can c on some trails how it can wheel better, I just wish the unlimited wernt so darn expensive, i mean 35K for a unlimited rubi come one how many wheelers have that much cash layin around. almost makes me want to rob a bank

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3.5in RK lift
245/75/16 firestone destination MT
16in cragar soft 8s
black horse grill guard
2 hella 500s

Two words... Approach Angle

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2008 Jeep Kk North addition 6 speed manual
debadged, mopar sport utility bars, jeep green.
mopar rear cargo liner for the dogs.

I think towing was what I looked at. Then price. 08 KK 7,500 miles 16,500.(one year old when I bought).

I'm considering a Liberty as my next vehicle and I would love a Wrangler 2DR but there are three things that are keeping me away: price (used), cargo room and most important, the towing capacity of the Wrangler. You can step up to the unlimited platform and gain the cargo space back and up the towing to 3500lbs from 2000 lbs for the 2DR, but at this point I think you would be defeating the purpose of getting the JK now due to the increased wheelbase and might as well go with the Liberty and save quite a bit of money. I've thought about this quite a bit and so far it looks like a liberty. I have a child on the way and car seats are rather larger these days and the room in the Liberty would be much appreciated by my Labrador Retriever compared to a 2DR Wrangler. Just my opinion.

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2010 Jeep Liberty Sport 4x4
Brilliant Black Crystal Pearl
Jeep molded cargo tray
Jeep Class III Hitch
Jeep 7-pin wiring harness
Trailer Brake
LT225/75r16 BF Goodrich All-Terrain TA KO

Ya my lab loves the liberty, he wouldnt even get up in my wrangler

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3.5in RK lift
245/75/16 firestone destination MT
16in cragar soft 8s
black horse grill guard
2 hella 500s

How did I get a Lab? I have an English Springer Spaniel and a Springer/Australian Shepard

I have a little dude and and mid size mutt and in my opinion you'll need the 4dr Wrangler or the KK. I had a coupe w my new born and my dog would sit next to him and once or twice saw something in the window a put her paw inside the car seat every time I would have a mini heart attack, that was when I knew we needed the cargo space. Good luck on your pick

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08 Jeep KK Blue. Currently Stock.

I think a 100% stock Wrangler and a Liberty are about equal off road. The Wrangler gets the nod on approach angle but the Liberty has a little bit better ground clearance. At least in the 2005 models. But over all it's not really fair to compare them. The Wrangler was made with off road use in mind and the Liberty wasn't.

Terry

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2011 Ford F-150 XLT 4X4

I wondered the same when looking in '08. I figured that 95% of the "real life" wheeling that I would do, the liberty would handle. Most of the time I have my kids with me so curtain airbag were v.i.p.. One saved my life so it was a high priority item! 5,000 lb tow ability was a plus too. Biggest complaint with my lib is the inability to turn the T.C.,E.S.P. ,B.S. completely off. Wish I had the 6speed but liked the awd feature for fast changing road conditions in our area. Hill descent has been used on icy switchback with stock tires @ 26psi. I'll get skids, tires, and hopefully a JBA2.5 lift or adjustable shocks to get through a little more "situations" easire. Keeping the car for life so got the full warranty package. Figure out what you will be really doing offroad. Or get a lib which you can find a heck of a lot cheaper than I paid, and tow a trail rig. Either way, have fun!

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First 4wd was S3 LR....totaled twice.

You can't be serious! It's not even close. My wife has a 2008 Liberty and I have a 2009 Wrangler. This past winter we had a huge 34" blizzard. I tried to move the Liberty and it immediately got stuck and I had to dig it out. The Wrangler just walked out without an issue. Both have Goodyear SRA tires.

he is talking about a 4 door read the post! but i kinda agree with u ha

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2004 3.7L sport standard 5 speed transmition
ome lift
Dynomax exhaust
k&n cold air intake
Rage roof rack
ultra 16in rims


To come:wheel spacers ,window tint, and off road lights on roof rack, last thing is a arb bumper and wintch
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