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 Post subject: Re: Mahindra receives EPA certification!!!
PostPosted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 6:20 am 
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I would give Mahindra a chance. They have put a lot of miles on their test mules to make sure that everything functions well. So far, it appears that the Urea changes be free of charge during the warranty period. They have now added VW as another service center option.

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 Post subject: Re: Mahindra receives EPA certification!!!
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There are a lot better things in the pipeline...


The guy over the diesel technology division at Chrysler/Dodge/Jeep said the same thing, but when asked when, he didn‘t have a timeline. :juggle: According to the magazine, we should see more diesels with the "New Chrysler".

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I would give Mahindra a chance. They have put a lot of miles on their test mules to make sure that everything functions well. So far, it appears that the Urea changes be free of charge during the warranty period. They have now added VW as another service center option.


Urea is added to a storage tank, and expelled out the exhaust, it is expendable not a changeable fluid.

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I would give Mahindra a chance. They have put a lot of miles on their test mules to make sure that everything functions well. So far, it appears that the Urea changes be free of charge during the warranty period. They have now added VW as another service center option.


Urea is added to a storage tank, and expelled out the exhaust, it is expendable not a changeable fluid.


Yea, I meant that the Urea will be “added” for free during the warranty period.

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 Post subject: Re: Mahindra receives EPA certification!!!
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Yea, I meant that the Urea will be “added” for free during the warranty period.


Ok, but that will not be a deal breaker or maker. I hear it is like $28 for 2.5 gallons. On my Sprinter, it says if the DEF becomes contaminated it needs to be drain and tank cleaned. But you would pretty much have to contaminate it your self by watering it down, or putting the wrong fluid it the tank.

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It doesn't do anything more that my CRD. Why would I buy it??

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It doesn't do anything more that my CRD. Why would I buy it??


I don’t think anyone is asking you to buy it. But I do believe it’s a nice option for those who want a real truck (e.g., 7.5-foot long bed in the two-door configuration and a 5-foot bed in the 4-door). Mahindra has a nice warranty (4 year/60,000 mile bumper-to-bumper including roadside assistance). You can’t beat the 30 mpg (city/highway combined). The 6 speed auto trany gives you more gears for towing. Plus, I like the 10,000 mile oil change intervals. I think it’s hard to compare the Liberty CRD with the Mahindra truck. The Mahindra also comes with a solid front axle and front/rear locker options.

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Yea, I meant that the Urea will be “added” for free during the warranty period.


Ok, but that will not be a deal breaker or maker. I hear it is like $28 for 2.5 gallons. On my Sprinter, it says if the DEF becomes contaminated it needs to be drain and tank cleaned. But you would pretty much have to contaminate it your self by watering it down, or putting the wrong fluid it the tank.



From what I’m hearing, you will be able to buy Urea at NAPA and other AUTO stores for a few dollars per gallon. Mahindra is saying their fill will be a gallon or two per 10,000 miles, which is at the same interval as their scheduled oil change.

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 Post subject: Re: Mahindra receives EPA certification!!!
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SOURCE FOR RAW MATERIALS TO PRODUCE UREA

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That should scare the Urea producers into keeping the price inline.

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flman wrote:
dieselenthusiast wrote:

Yea, I meant that the Urea will be “added” for free during the warranty period.


Ok, but that will not be a deal breaker or maker. I hear it is like $28 for 2.5 gallons.


Mate, I have a great deal for you.

I had about 10 pints at the pub tonight. I wioll manufacture probably six imperial gallllons of this stuff tonight.

I woilll put it in some sealed Coke bottles and ship it to you for - get this - $15 USD per 2.5 imperiol gallons


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 Post subject: Re: Mahindra receives EPA certification!!!
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I've driven them in south africa my friend had one BIGGEST PEACE OF CARP rather buy an old ford, chevy or dodge then a new mahindra. this EPA certification is not good news.

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flman wrote:
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Yea, I meant that the Urea will be “added” for free during the warranty period.


Ok, but that will not be a deal breaker or maker. I hear it is like $28 for 2.5 gallons. On my Sprinter, it says if the DEF becomes contaminated it needs to be drain and tank cleaned. But you would pretty much have to contaminate it your self by watering it down, or putting the wrong fluid it the tank.



You can get the DEF fluid at all the major truck stops now for around $10 for a 2.5 gallon jug. Once this stuff gets popular enough to put in all the other retail outlets, the price will start getting competitive and probably even sales on the stuff from time to time. Considering that presently a gallon of DEF will take approximately 300-500 miles to deplete in a 15L diesel grossing 80,000 lb, it would seem that it will probably be pretty darn cost effective in suv or pickup applications. I would like to see the total elimination of EGR as a way to control NOx and go exclusively to DEF with no EGR as the solution.

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I've driven them in south africa my friend had one BIGGEST PEACE OF CARP rather buy an old ford, chevy or dodge then a new mahindra. this EPA certification is not good news.


See I told you it was a piece of sheit. I wish you guys luck if you get one.

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 Post subject: Re: Mahindra receives EPA certification!!!
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SOURCE FOR RAW MATERIALS TO PRODUCE UREA

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That should scare the Urea producers into keeping the price inline.


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flman wrote:
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I've driven them in south africa my friend had one BIGGEST PEACE OF CARP rather buy an old ford, chevy or dodge then a new mahindra. this EPA certification is not good news.


See I told you it was a piece of sheit. I wish you guys luck if you get one.


so one guy says a vehicle is a piece of fish and you take that as gospel to prove your point?

Yup, gonna have to trust you on this one my friend!
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See I told you it was a piece of sheit. I wish you guys luck if you get one.


so one guy says a vehicle is a piece of fish and you take that as gospel to prove your point?

Yup, gonna have to trust you on this one my friend!
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Well go check and see how well there farm tractors are holding up, I believe one of the posters said it was well built because "All his Indian friends told him so, go figure. :roll:

Read all about their high quality tractors here http://www.tractorforum.com/f202/

I think there other products are enough proof for me.

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Fifteen years ago Hyundai cars were a crap shoot. One would go 200,000 miles and the next one would have a ring ridge at 30,000 miles. Then Hyundai made a choice to build a higher quality car and they did. I drive a lot of rental cars and I can say that Hyundai now has a quality car. Mahindra will need to make the same choice to build quality. Then, we will all see what choice they make.
I have no plans to replace my CRD, but to see another Diesel on the road is a plus and as good as giving the Long Bowman's Salute to a Prius with both hands. :)

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Fifteen years ago Hyundai cars were a crap shoot. One would go 200,000 miles and the next one would have a ring ridge at 30,000 miles. Then Hyundai made a choice to build a higher quality car and they did. I drive a lot of rental cars and I can say that Hyundai now has a quality car. Mahindra will need to make the same choice to build quality. Then, we will all see what choice they make.
I have no plans to replace my CRD, but to see another Diesel on the road is a plus and as good as giving the Long Bowman's Salute to a Prius with both hands. :)


Mate, I don't know what salesman is blowing smoke up your rump, but Hyundai still make poop cars. My mates and I have never paid over £1,000 for one that was less than five years old.

Then we sell the wretch for over three times what we paid for it because there are some morons that actually believe the BS that you're spewing.

I'm sorry, but Hyundai can't build a proper car any more than I can build a proper space ship.


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Fifteen years ago Hyundai cars were a crap shoot. One would go 200,000 miles and the next one would have a ring ridge at 30,000 miles. Then Hyundai made a choice to build a higher quality car and they did. I drive a lot of rental cars and I can say that Hyundai now has a quality car. Mahindra will need to make the same choice to build quality. Then, we will all see what choice they make.
I have no plans to replace my CRD, but to see another Diesel on the road is a plus and as good as giving the Long Bowman's Salute to a Prius with both hands. :)


Mate, I don't know what salesman is blowing smoke up your rump, but Hyundai still make poop cars. My mates and I have never paid over £1,000 for one that was less than five years old.

Then we sell the wretch for over three times what we paid for it because there are some morons that actually believe the BS that you're spewing.

I'm sorry, but Hyundai can't build a proper car any more than I can build a proper space ship.

Well anything with a timing belt is not built right anyways,chians or gear-to-gear drives.


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Well anything with a timing belt is not built right anyways,chians or gear-to-gear drives.


TJ, that should be voted troll statement of the year. :2cents:

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