Mahindra receives EPA certification!!!

warp2diesel · **Posted:** Wed Aug 25, 2010 10:20 am

flman wrote:

tjkj2002 wrote:

Well anything with a timing belt is not built right anyways,chians or gear-to-gear drives.

TJ, that should be voted troll statement of the year. :2cents:

X2!!!!!!!!!!!

UFO · **Posted:** Wed Aug 25, 2010 10:42 am

tjkj2002 wrote:

Well anything with a timing belt is not built right anyways,chians or gear-to-gear drives.

You live up to your (well deserved) troll status again. :dizzy:

jdorris · **Posted:** Wed Aug 25, 2010 10:49 am

It's funny. He seems to help people in other sections. I think he comes in here when he wants to be a D*&%.

DarbyWalters · **Posted:** Wed Aug 25, 2010 11:32 am

I would rather fashion the back of my CRD into a bed...keep some storage space behind the seat and call it done.

jslibby · **Posted:** Wed Aug 25, 2010 5:51 pm

warp2diesel wrote:

Fifteen years ago Hyundai cars were a crap shoot. One would go 200,000 miles and the next one would have a ring ridge at 30,000 miles. Then Hyundai made a choice to build a higher quality car and they did. I drive a lot of rental cars and I can say that Hyundai now has a quality car. Mahindra will need to make the same choice to build quality. Then, we will all see what choice they make.
I have no plans to replace my CRD, but to see another Diesel on the road is a plus and as good as giving the Long Bowman's Salute to a Prius with both hands.

well in fifteen years i might say "hey you know those mahindras have come a long way"
however i feel i will say that about TATA way before i say it about mahindra.
untill i won't buy either nothing beatts a well made car

OldSkull · **Posted:** Wed Aug 25, 2010 7:59 pm

DarbyWalters wrote:

I would rather fashion the back of my CRD into a bed...keep some storage space behind the seat and call it done.

Well this one look a bit better don't you think? :mrgreen:

Maybe 1000 times better then a Mandrakuri shiskebab...what ever they call this "thing"... :ROTFL:

tjkj2002 · **Posted:** Wed Aug 25, 2010 8:04 pm

UFO wrote:

tjkj2002 wrote:

Well anything with a timing belt is not built right anyways,chians or gear-to-gear drives.

You live up to your (well deserved) troll status again. :dizzy:

I hate any engine with a timing belt,was a general statement which includes gas engines also,you guy's have no sense of humor.

WelshCherokeeCRD · **Joined:** Wed Apr 21, 2010 6:57 am **Posts:** 68

From a durability and reliability standpoint I will agree 100% with tjkj's statement about timing belts.

It's the stupidest bunk, and only used by companies too cheap to fashion a quiet chain driven cam.

This is coming from somebody who has owned vehicles with timing belts almost exclusively, including the Chero. It's a waste of time and a poor, lazy solution just like those stupid motorcycles with belt drives.

flman · **Posted:** Thu Aug 26, 2010 8:12 am

WelshCherokeeCRD wrote:

From a durability and reliability standpoint I will agree 100% with tjkj's statement about timing belts.

It's the stupidest bunk, and only used by companies too cheap to fashion a quiet chain driven cam.

This is coming from somebody who has owned vehicles with timing belts almost exclusively, including the Chero. It's a waste of time and a poor, lazy solution just like those stupid motorcycles with belt drives.

I can agree with that too. But TJ was just getting in a dig. Any ways, I think vehicles with spark plugs suck, they are not as durable and long lasting as their diesel equivalents. :goink:

OldSkull · **Posted:** Thu Aug 26, 2010 10:30 am

FTMAN I agree with you, nothing compare to a Diesel for energy efficience and longivity but we don't have any Liberty CRD to comfirm the "longivity" of VM Diesel yet and I believe without big espensive maintenance they not gone last over 150 maybe 200K miles. The famous 1 million miles engine is just fiction.

"Now Fiat own Chrysler and behind Fiat there is a big name compagnie....CNH a majority-owned subsidiary of Fiat Group, was formed in 1999 through the merger of two renowned companies at the international level: New Holland NV and Case Corporation." (source Fiat group site)

Yep they produce tractor Diesel engine, those one last ....and last.... :-)

None of those got a timing belt.. :mrgreen:

They have the backup to produce a good engine with there new Multiair technologie cuting 60% of NOX emission without the use of EGR or UREA...I already imagine how many Jeep wrangler owners trying to find a way to swap those engine in instead of popular 5,7L gasser!

Is it Fantasy island? I realy don't know but we better kept a eye on them...

jslibby · **Posted:** Thu Aug 26, 2010 4:10 pm

i think the both have there place in the world diesel and gas tho diesel will surly be in prodution longer gas engines.
my frien has a prado 3.7 gas 450,000 Km last time i check never open the engine
ihave open the engine on my 240GD but to be honest the odometer only goes up to 99,999 and it gone around once sine i owned so who knows the really reading.

point is diesel and gas is really a thing of taste. i lean a bit more to the diesel side, but i dont knock a good gas engine. and many turbo diesel can be troublesome just ask a nissan owner :-)r

unless it none turbo the blow there turbos alot.

JL Rockies · **Posted:** Thu Aug 26, 2010 6:42 pm

diesel engines are better for when the zombie apocalypse comes because fuel can be made from many things.... even zombies...

JL Rockies · **Posted:** Thu Aug 26, 2010 6:46 pm

tjkj2002 wrote:

I hate any engine with a timing belt,was a general statement which includes gas engines also,you guy's have no sense of humor.

We're going to have to ask you to conduct yourself in a serious manner in this forum... We are very busy over-thinking things and have no time for shenanigans.

dieseldoesit · **Posted:** Thu Aug 26, 2010 6:49 pm

JL Rockies wrote:

diesel engines are better for when the zombie apocalypse comes because fuel can be made from many things.... even zombies...

There is a scene... trying to jam a body into "Mr. Fusion" ha ha

dieselenthusiast · **Posted:** Thu Aug 26, 2010 8:58 pm

I prefer the diesel concept, but newer diesel engines seem to have many more problems than newer gasoline engines. I read an article a few months ago that said gasoline engines would eventually become more efficient than diesel engines. According to the article, gasoline technology will advance meeting EPA benchmarks whereas diesel would have a more difficult time doing the same while maintaining it’s efficiency.

tjkj2002 · **Posted:** Thu Aug 26, 2010 9:03 pm

dieselenthusiast wrote:

I prefer the diesel concept, but newer diesel engines seem to have many more problems than newer gasoline engines. I read an article a few months ago that said gasoline engines would eventually become more efficient than diesel engines. According to the article, gasoline technology will advance meeting EPA benchmarks whereas diesel would have a more difficult time doing the same while maintaining it’s efficiency.

I'll get flak for this one :roll:

But you are correct,Ford is going light years ahead with there direct injection gas engines.Powerful and very fuel efficient at the same time.

JL Rockies · **Posted:** Thu Aug 26, 2010 11:11 pm

Impossible to make gasoline from zombies though.

tjkj2002 · **Posted:** Thu Aug 26, 2010 11:15 pm

JL Rockies wrote:

Impossible to make gasoline from zombies though.

Methane from the roiting corpse's will do the trick :JEEPIN:

dieseldoesit · **Posted:** Fri Aug 27, 2010 1:24 am

tjkj2002 wrote:

dieselenthusiast wrote:

I prefer the diesel concept, but newer diesel engines seem to have many more problems than newer gasoline engines. I read an article a few months ago that said gasoline engines would eventually become more efficient than diesel engines. According to the article, gasoline technology will advance meeting EPA benchmarks whereas diesel would have a more difficult time doing the same while maintaining it’s efficiency.

I'll get flak for this one :roll:

But you are correct,Ford is going light years ahead with there direct injection gas engines.Powerful and very fuel efficient at the same time.

Agreed with both of your statements. Compound chargers (turbo and super charging), direct injection, variable compression, HCCI, infinitely variable valve train, and fancy plasma sensors for the fuel injection will be really interesting. Though, I love my diesel.

Quiksilver · **Posted:** Fri Aug 27, 2010 6:38 am

jslibby wrote:

I've driven them in south africa my friend had one BIGGEST PEACE OF CARP rather buy an old ford, chevy or dodge then a new mahindra. this EPA certification is not good news.

Yip

We have them here - to be honest they not the best - but it all depends on pricing. I wouldn't recommend one for a personal vehicle - but for a work wagon you know is going to be abused then i reckon they a ok.

That said i would still rather say go find a second hand Toyota or Nissan Pickup (if they have those there - Hardbody or Hilux?) :2cents:

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