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PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 10:29 am 
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I don't ask for much. My Jeep runs pretty well. It has 84k. Now a light bulb has gone out in the dash so the number 3 on the tach is dark. What a piece of crap. I've never seen that in my life. I have an 86 Jeep that sits in the rain without a top on it and the dash lights still work.

Is it easy to change? I don't even see screws to take out the panel. Not that it's a big deal. It's just rediculous.

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 Post subject: Re: one stupid back light went out on dash
PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 11:46 pm 
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You're joking, right? You have a five-year-old vehicle and you're complaining about a LIGHT BULB? If you've never seen that in your life, I can't expect you to be older than what, 17 or 18? More to the point, if you leave your 1986 CJ-7 out in the weather with no top on it, that kind of tells us what kind of fanatic you are about vehicular maintenance.

If the UK models are the same as yours, you need to remove the grab handle, pry up the dash panel that has the grilles for the tweeters in it, and then you can access the screws. I may have missed a step or two.

Of course if you couldn't figure this out on your own, which I assume you couldn't from your post, I can't trust you're capable of such a drastic undertaking so I'd recommend having it towed to a garage at your earliest convenience so you can enjoy their substandard coffee and stale breakfast pastries from this past Wednesday.

Not to mention I'd recommend you learn how to either use spell check, or learn to spell ridiculous.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 11:58 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: one stupid back light went out on dash
PostPosted: Sat Sep 04, 2010 4:02 pm 
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Wow, is this the fallout from deleting certain posting areas where one can vent? Somebody seems to be having a bad day across the pond. :banghead: Cheers though, this was what happened when I read it. :ROTFL:

On a happier note, are you sure Big MT your bulb is burnt? My display is darker there but I'm pretty sure the bulb is not burnt...its been that way since it was new.

Good luck. I know too well what this jeep, and its associated passions, can do to oneself.
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 Post subject: Re: one stupid back light went out on dash
PostPosted: Sat Sep 04, 2010 6:45 pm 
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You're joking, right? You have a five-year-old vehicle and you're complaining about a LIGHT BULB? If you've never seen that in your life, I can't expect you to be older than what, 17 or 18? More to the point, if you leave your 1986 CJ-7 out in the weather with no top on it, that kind of tells us what kind of fanatic you are about vehicular maintenance.

If the UK models are the same as yours, you need to remove the grab handle, pry up the dash panel that has the grilles for the tweeters in it, and then you can access the screws. I may have missed a step or two.

Of course if you couldn't figure this out on your own, which I assume you couldn't from your post, I can't trust you're capable of such a drastic undertaking so I'd recommend having it towed to a garage at your earliest convenience so you can enjoy their substandard coffee and stale breakfast pastries from this past Wednesday.

Not to mention I'd recommend you learn how to either use spell check, or learn to spell ridiculous.


ok ok. I'm sorry. I will try to keep my posts more in line with people who have real problems. I will also try to spell my words more carefully. I have a degree in English and that mistake is an obvious example of my quick anger after coming in from a cold windy night working on my KJ. (My CJ 7 is a swamp machine with a Chevy 350 and most of it is water proofed save for the old dash lights... which still work) I have seen grammatical and usage mistakes far worse on this site I might add, including a complete lack of homophone awareness, but I have not yet pointed that out to anyone. I'm sorry to have wasted your time with my venting, and while I'm at it, I'm sorry that we spell many of our words without the "u" I don't get it either. Don’t get me started on aluminum. I think it was an attempt to shorten the time it took to set type or perhaps the origin was indeed a more malicious attempt to tell people from Great Britain to get bent, a statement which certainly seems appropriate in this case too.

Either way, thanks for the info on pulling the dash panel up. I WISH we could get breakfast pastries here, especially those little meat pies that I ate so often in London and during my time living in Australia. Even when they reach several days old they taste great. Here if you let a McDonald's sandwich fall to room temperature you might as well throw it away. We can certainly learn something from the way you guys make breakfast food. For example, I have never gotten tired of beans on toast. So simple, yet so filling.

You’re right that I have not owned very many cars. I’m 31, but I bought a Buick Century in high school that lasted until I purchased my 95 Subaru. I drove that one into the ground too and never had any major problems due to the standard maintenance I performed. All the lights worked. I did replace a fog light on the Subaru once because I cracked the lens on a snow bank on an old back road. Anyway, I donated the Subaru to charity and bought the CRD. Again, it runs fine. What I should have been more specific about with my complaint was a condemnation of DMC’s ability to put a quality product on the road. Let’s face it, it’s the little things that count right? That’s why BMW and Mercedes have been making so many good cars. It’s the attention to detail that really satisfies people. Therefore, the fact that I have a light out inside of my dash would indicate to me a lack of attention to those little things that make people so happy with their cars. I’ve said in other posts that my brother worked there and he was critical of Daimler’s desire to remove so much cost from the construction of the cars. Obviously labor costs were an important factor, but the non-essential products (like dash lights) were produced in countries with, dare I say it, less quality. I digress. As a tax-payer who has a vested interest in a company bailed out with public money, I question whether it was worth saving in the first place. Oh well, we can’t all drive Jags right? Well, I drove a 76 Jag for three months in Australia. Its lights worked too. It had an actual wooden dashboard. In fact, the only thing it ever needed was tune-ups and a new hood when my host family hit a kangaroo at 140 KPH. Wild stuff.

Anyway, I’m going to double check that the light is indeed out. There is something going on because I can’t see the three at all during night driving. I wonder if something is there blocking the light? Strange. I’ll figure it out. Thanks guys.

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 Post subject: Re: one stupid back light went out on dash
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Like water off a duck's back... I wish I could take a response like that, like that. Kudos and I hope you figure out that light.

I too miss the breakfast pastries, and rasher(sp) bacon.

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 Post subject: Re: one stupid back light went out on dash
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Oh yeah. I wish we had more time for breakfast here. I always rush out of the house. Even just a tea time like I had over in Australia where we would stop work and be humans for 30 minutes.

I went out tonight and turned the lights on. The number 3 is black. The lines behind the 3 that make up the curve are black. It stands out as a hole in the normal green glow. I've owned this thing since day one. I think I would have noticed it before now, but I could be wrong. I'm going to replace my radio some day because the CD player has been out since 37k (that's 1k past the 3/36k) Perhaps I'll make a day of it and try pulling the whole dash out. Perhaps not.

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 Post subject: Re: one stupid back light went out on dash
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I'm sorry if my post came off a bit brash (which it absolutely was), but I was (and still am) a bit perplexed about being perturbed about a burned out light bulb. It's a five year old car.

Maybe I'm just happy I'm not still screwing with MGs and Triumphs and expectations are a bit different across the pond :-)r


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 Post subject: Re: one stupid back light went out on dash
PostPosted: Sat Sep 04, 2010 10:36 pm 
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I appreciate that. Obviously a bulb is a stupid thing to be concerned about, but all these little things add up. Like the CD player that I just mentioned. That’s another device I got the inside track on from my brother. The combination CD/Tape player had an 80%+ failure rate and Chrysler kept putting it in their vehicles for years. Or the $450 I just spent on a paint job for the rear door hatch to fix a flaw in the rear tail light that allows water inside the seam. In Michigan with our salty, winter roads, that’s unacceptable The company is founded in Michigan and they Jeep is build 2 hours south of me in Ohio with the same salty roads. I don’t have a problem with the drive train or the power or the handling. I knew what I was buying. I was buying a small Jeep. It was one of the few vehicles my wife and I could afford NEW with all time AWD like my old Subaru. GMs and Fords were too costly or the fuel economy was too low. I confess too that I wanted to own a rare car for the US.

Whatever, to me the simple things should be the easiest things. Perhaps I’ve just had a good track record on dashboard lights and my good fortune has come to an end. I’ll live. Enjoy your superior UK beer and I’ll try to stop bitching (or whingeing) and posting about it.

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 Post subject: Re: one stupid back light went out on dash
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Only one? I have replaced 3 or 4 and have at least 1 out now.
Try changing the lamp for the shift, I cracked the display trying to get to that one.
Mine seems to have gotten really cheap lamps. :cry:
My 1993 pickup has 2 lamps out after 17 years.

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Actually, on my drive home with this KJ I noticed that I have a light out too! For me, it's the number 1 on the Tach. VERY annoying! I've had trucks and SUVs much older with many more miles on them, and I've never seen this before in my life either. Cheap junk. I understand that you cannot just change bulbs anymore like you used to, is that right? It's a different luminating type?

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Add me to the pissed off list. My headlight burned out last night. I only had 75,000 miles on it and 5 years. Then I go to change it and realize the headlights are no longer screwed in from the front!! What the hell?? Must be new illuminating type cheap junk! Oh, the horror..

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JL Rockies wrote:
Everytime you call a "Jeep" a "car" you kill a cat.


Seriously? ...my jeeps a car, my jeeps a car, my jeeps a car, my jeeps a car... hopefully I just killed that cat next door who climbs up the hood of my firebird evey night. :jester: :mrgreen:

I agree, I've had cars that were 10, 15, 20 years old and never burnt out bulbs like you are stating.

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Add me to the pissed off list. My headlight burned out last night. I only had 75,000 miles on it and 5 years. [url]Then I go to change it and realize the headlights are no longer screwed in from the front!![/url]What the hell?? Must be new illuminating type cheap junk! Oh, the horror..


Are you sure about that? Mine fits in the recess with collar that screws the light and assembly to the back of the light housing. Just like every vehicle I've owned since the 90's (maybe further, but that is how far back my mind goes :shock: )

I took the battery out for the drivers side and the passenger side is accessible. I'm on my third set with 118k (just rolled 118 today :SOMBRERO: ). Admittedly, I my second pair were much brighter and burnt out quicker (they were nicer than stock though)...just like the packing said they would...

Good luck and don't bust a knuckle or lamp.

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JL Rockies wrote:
Everytime you call a "Jeep" a "car" you kill a cat.


Which one goes against what I said?

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2.a vehicle running on rails, as a streetcar or railroad car.
3.the part of an elevator, balloon, modern airship, etc., that carries the passengers, freight, etc.
4.British Dialect. any wheeled vehicle, as a farm cart or wagon.
5.Literary. a chariot, as of war or triumph.
6.Archaic. cart; carriage.
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Don't worry about him. It has become popular to jump on people for using the word car, so people just parrot that line.

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That's a big car, mate.


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Mate, seems our neighbors at the new place have something for you.

http://www.ifsjeepers.com/phpBB3/viewto ... ?f=24&t=35


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Wow. Thanks a lot. I'm going to bookmark that and fix the light. That needs to end up in the tech forum.

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