New Diesel Start Stop Technology from Chrysler

racertracer · **Posted:** Mon Oct 11, 2010 5:50 am

Here is new Chrysler diesel technology that is being built in America and available to the world, but not sold in the USA.

http://green.autoblog.com/2010/09/30/di ... or-europe/

salden77 · **Joined:** Tue Jun 01, 2010 2:42 pm **Posts:** 271

racertracer wrote:

Here is new Chrysler diesel technology that is being built in America and available to the world, but not sold in the USA.

http://green.autoblog.com/2010/09/30/di ... or-europe/

If they put a turbo diesel in the wrangler before 2007 i probably would have bought one, maybe the reason they do not offer in US is because they couldnt pass the redic. emissions tests here.

warp2diesel · **Posted:** Mon Oct 11, 2010 7:36 am

Read The CARB Busted thread and remember it at least for the next few weeks.
Hint Hint

striperman36 · **Posted:** Mon Oct 11, 2010 8:50 am

salden77 wrote:

racertracer wrote:

Here is new Chrysler diesel technology that is being built in America and available to the world, but not sold in the USA.

http://green.autoblog.com/2010/09/30/di ... or-europe/

If they put a turbo diesel in the wrangler before 2007 i probably would have bought one, maybe the reason they do not offer in US is because they couldnt pass the redic. emissions tests here.

Wonder if the TC on that would fit the 06 CRD.

flman · **Posted:** Mon Oct 11, 2010 9:02 am

It would be like driving a golf cart, shuts off when you hit the brakes. No thank you.

flman · **Posted:** Mon Oct 11, 2010 9:04 am

warp2diesel wrote:

Read The CARB Busted thread and remember it at least for the next few weeks.
Hint Hint

Speaking of the CARB thread, I wonder why Captain Planet and his Planeteers did not jump in and defend CARB?

Joe Romas · **Posted:** Mon Oct 11, 2010 9:13 am

striperman36 wrote:

Wonder if the TC on that would fit the 06 CRD.

Reading the article the stop/start feature is on the standard shift ones and therefore would not have a TC :SOMBRERO:

Drewd · **Joined:** Mon Feb 06, 2006 12:24 pm **Posts:** 902

so much for turbo cooldown with such a feature?

flman · **Posted:** Mon Oct 11, 2010 11:49 am

Drewd wrote:

so much for turbo cooldown with such a feature?

How about we call it turbo countdown :dead:

warp2diesel · **Posted:** Mon Oct 11, 2010 6:00 pm

flman wrote:

warp2diesel wrote:

Read The CARB Busted thread and remember it at least for the next few weeks.
Hint Hint

Speaking of the CARB thread, I wonder why Captain Planet and his Planeteers did not jump in and defend CARB?

Maybe CARB's check bounced. I learned one thing about Contractors, if you don't pay them, they don't work.
I suspect Captain Planet is a Contract Troll on the CARB/EPA pay role.

I heard a good analogy about CARB getting caught.
It is not like getting caught with their pants down like the Enviro-Crusader from Tennessee and his therapist.
What CARB did is more like Streaking a Orthodox Religious Wedding Ceremony, Screaming Profanities, and throwing up on the Bride and Groom.

Hand Cuffs :POPCORN:

CRD Joe · **Posted:** Tue Oct 12, 2010 12:05 am

Screw the scumbags that keep these vehicles out the United States. I wish pancreatic cancer on ALL OF THEM!

flman · **Posted:** Tue Oct 12, 2010 6:53 am

CRD Joe wrote:

Screw the scumbags that keep these vehicles out the United States. I wish pancreatic cancer on ALL OF THEM!

Whoa, I don't want to get on your bad side :grim:

Tinman · **Joined:** Mon Apr 10, 2006 10:45 am **Posts:** 308

Tell me more about the start/stop. Kinda like a hybrid with the electric?

MrMopar64 · **Posted:** Tue Oct 12, 2010 7:10 pm

Start/stop works like this in a nutshell:

You're driving along and come to a red light. Clutch out trans in neutral, the engine stops.

Light turns green, depress the clutch and the engine starts. The advantage is saving all the wasted fuel from idling. At the end of the day, it adds up to a noticeable difference if your daily commute takes you through the city route.

There aren't any "hybrid" electronics or high-voltage batteries for start/stop.
The start/stop vehicles have a few specific parts that make the operation more efficient:
*Upgraded starter motor for power and durability
*Intelligent Battery Sensor: communicates battery state of charge to know if the battery is too discharged to start efficiently
*Upgraded crank sensor and tone wheel: ECU can synchronize cam/crank faster to start sooner. The engine starts in 550ms from starter engagement to stable idle
*Additional sensor on trans for detecting neutral position

Enjoy your CRD. :-)

geordi · **Posted:** Wed Oct 13, 2010 2:34 am

Same thing they have had on the John Deere Gator 4x2 diesel for years. It runs when you put your foot on it, it stops when you stop.

danoid · **Posted:** Fri Oct 15, 2010 1:06 pm

Joe Romas wrote:

striperman36 wrote:

Wonder if the TC on that would fit the 06 CRD.

Reading the article the stop/start feature is on the standard shift ones and therefore would not have a TC :SOMBRERO:

The one I drove around the block had three pedals.

onthehunt · **Posted:** Fri Oct 15, 2010 2:12 pm

I suspect that this will yield a much better return on a gas engine. Diesel fuel usage at idle is almost non-existent. Unless your in a regen cycle.

geordi · **Posted:** Fri Oct 15, 2010 2:28 pm

onthehunt wrote:

I suspect that this will yield a much better return on a gas engine. Diesel fuel usage at idle is almost non-existent. Unless your in a regen cycle.

Yup, after using my CRD as a hotel and idling it for 8 hours... Using only 2 gallons during that time... This seems to be a solution searching for a problem. Move along, the payoff on a diesel isn't worth it.

danoid · **Posted:** Sat Oct 16, 2010 12:02 am

Actually I think the drive for this comes from the European version of CARB. (even they are not immune)

Diesels at idle still generate emissions, and the thinking is, no idling, no emissions.

onthehunt · **Posted:** Sun Oct 17, 2010 9:59 pm

They come with an upgraded starter,ring gear and battery??

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