It is currently Mon Aug 17, 2026 4:04 pm

All times are UTC - 5 hours [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 33 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: What do I need? Basic lift to fit 245/70/R17.
PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 8:45 am 
Offline
LOST Member
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jun 28, 2010 8:51 am
Posts: 268
Might start the slow process of buying my lift piece by piece soon and just wanted to figure out exactly what I need.

Front Springs (From what I find, 927 is what I want for stock bumper, correct?)
Back springs (What number back springs do I need?)
Shocks all around (Any suggestions? Or does everyone agree on bilsteins?)
Bumpstops?
Would I need wheel spacers? (Using stock 17 inch wheels)

Also, I plan on just lifting it just enough to clear 245/70/R17 and no higher. I don't offroad (unless you consider snow drifts offroading :mrgreen: ) So would I need anything besides what I listed? Do I need any top plates for the front or anything? Any input would be much appreciated! 8)

_________________
2003 Jeep Liberty Freedom Edition
3.7L 5 speed manual
OME 927/948 w/Bilsteins
245/75/16 Goodyear Duratracs


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: What do I need? Basic lift to fit 245/70/R17.
PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 8:52 am 
Offline
Lifetime Member
Lifetime Member
User avatar

Joined: Sun Feb 01, 2009 2:29 am
Posts: 5956
Location: Hillsborough, NC / Corolla NC
927's front and 948's rear for OME and they'll be fine from stock up to the weight of steel bumpers

since the RSX rancho series is kaput, bilsteins are probably the better choice short of going to Fox

4 hockey pucks, a bolt , 2 washers and a nylon lock nut for the rear bumpstops , 90 degree drill and bolt them to the lower spring perch

front, terra flex extended bumpstops, or stock, JL will be over shortly to say bumpstops are for hooha's

a couple conduit nuts for the front clevis incase you need to level it out in the front

2 extra upper iso's per side for the rear incase you need to level it there

I think the rim issue is answered already in the tire section, should have plenty of fitment information there for that aspect

the front shocks are Stock KJ shocks, the rear, you'll want Dodge Durango 4WD shocks

_________________
03 Renegade (Black)
177k miles 3.7L gas - 45RFE
Command Trac / 4.10s
Lift: ft. 790+ rr. JBA4+
The last of the TrailReady Front&Rear Bumpers and TR Rock Rails
Jarhead Offroad light covers
31x10.5R15 RedLetter Grabbers on Blackrock Dunes
L.O.S.T #KD098632


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: What do I need? Basic lift to fit 245/70/R17.
PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 8:56 am 
Offline
LOST Member
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jun 28, 2010 8:51 am
Posts: 268
So the 2 extra upper iso's for rear would be only if I need to level it afterwards? Along with the clevis too right? If I can swing it, I really want to avoid stacking iso's or use a clevis lift. Without these, would I still be able to fit the tire size that I want?

_________________
2003 Jeep Liberty Freedom Edition
3.7L 5 speed manual
OME 927/948 w/Bilsteins
245/75/16 Goodyear Duratracs


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: What do I need? Basic lift to fit 245/70/R17.
PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 8:59 am 
Offline
Moderator / Lifetime Member
Moderator / Lifetime Member

Joined: Thu Jul 07, 2005 5:49 pm
Posts: 27226
Location: NOW Southeastern Ohio/ Tanzania
You should be but whats the deal not wanting to add a little extra to make sure no rubs
Its not like they are going to fall out or anything :ROTFL:
pound the pinch weld also

_________________
MUDD'S MOTORSPORT'S We do IFS lift installs ,
03 OVERLAND EDITION /Kilby-Skidrow-Mopar-4XGuard skids/ 2.5 inch TOTAL CONTROL JBA coilovers -JBA Arms/MOABS-31 FALKEN WILDPEAK AT3W / 4.10's etc, 04 Kilimanjaro Edition loaded, plus 05 KJ limited


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: What do I need? Basic lift to fit 245/70/R17.
PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 9:01 am 
Offline
LOST Member
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jun 28, 2010 8:51 am
Posts: 268
tommudd wrote:
You should be but whats the deal not wanting to add a little extra to make sure no rubs
Its not like they are going to fall out or anything :ROTFL:
pound the pinch weld also


Hey, I'm still reading about everything :wink:. I just don't want excess hardware installed that I don't really need. If that makes any sense. :mrgreen:

Plus extra iso's means extra money spent. :wink:

_________________
2003 Jeep Liberty Freedom Edition
3.7L 5 speed manual
OME 927/948 w/Bilsteins
245/75/16 Goodyear Duratracs


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: What do I need? Basic lift to fit 245/70/R17.
PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 9:49 am 
Offline
LOST Member
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jun 28, 2010 8:51 am
Posts: 268
So how does this look then?

JBA-OME927
OME Spring for front strut

JBA-OME948
OME Spring for Rear

JBA-F4-BE5-D916-H0
BILSTEIN - Heavy Duty Front

JBA-F4-BE5-6458-H7
BILSTEIN - Heavy Duty 2.5" Lift Rear

JBA-TER1903200
TeraFlex Bump Stop

Total comes out to about $421.69. All taken from www.jeepinbyal.com

So other than that, maybe some conduit nuts and 2 extra iso's? Anyplace specific to get the iso's?

Thanks!

_________________
2003 Jeep Liberty Freedom Edition
3.7L 5 speed manual
OME 927/948 w/Bilsteins
245/75/16 Goodyear Duratracs


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: What do I need? Basic lift to fit 245/70/R17.
PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 9:56 am 
Offline
Lifetime Member
Lifetime Member
User avatar

Joined: Sun Feb 01, 2009 2:29 am
Posts: 5956
Location: Hillsborough, NC / Corolla NC
http://jeepinbyal.com/prod-Rear_upper_c ... r-668.aspx

x 4

_________________
03 Renegade (Black)
177k miles 3.7L gas - 45RFE
Command Trac / 4.10s
Lift: ft. 790+ rr. JBA4+
The last of the TrailReady Front&Rear Bumpers and TR Rock Rails
Jarhead Offroad light covers
31x10.5R15 RedLetter Grabbers on Blackrock Dunes
L.O.S.T #KD098632


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: What do I need? Basic lift to fit 245/70/R17.
PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 10:01 am 
Offline
LOST Member
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jun 28, 2010 8:51 am
Posts: 268
JeepinJarhead03 wrote:
http://jeepinbyal.com/prod-Rear_upper_coil_spring_isolator-668.aspx

x 4


Guess I missed that. Thanks! :dizzy:

_________________
2003 Jeep Liberty Freedom Edition
3.7L 5 speed manual
OME 927/948 w/Bilsteins
245/75/16 Goodyear Duratracs


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: What do I need? Basic lift to fit 245/70/R17.
PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 10:07 am 
Offline
Lifetime Member
Lifetime Member
User avatar

Joined: Sun Feb 01, 2009 2:29 am
Posts: 5956
Location: Hillsborough, NC / Corolla NC
happens :P

_________________
03 Renegade (Black)
177k miles 3.7L gas - 45RFE
Command Trac / 4.10s
Lift: ft. 790+ rr. JBA4+
The last of the TrailReady Front&Rear Bumpers and TR Rock Rails
Jarhead Offroad light covers
31x10.5R15 RedLetter Grabbers on Blackrock Dunes
L.O.S.T #KD098632


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: What do I need? Basic lift to fit 245/70/R17.
PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 10:18 am 
Offline
LOST Member
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jun 28, 2010 8:51 am
Posts: 268
Ok, after I updated everything with the correct amount (instead of 1 coil spring and 1 shock per front and back :-)r ) looks like the total would be $843.74. :shock:

Well, guess I'll have to start ordering piece by piece. :?

Thanks for the all the help!

_________________
2003 Jeep Liberty Freedom Edition
3.7L 5 speed manual
OME 927/948 w/Bilsteins
245/75/16 Goodyear Duratracs


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: What do I need? Basic lift to fit 245/70/R17.
PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 10:45 am 
Offline
Moderator / Lifetime Member
Moderator / Lifetime Member

Joined: Thu Jul 07, 2005 5:49 pm
Posts: 27226
Location: NOW Southeastern Ohio/ Tanzania
have you tried looking at prices at the other places ? Can save a little coin that way
I buy a lot from
www.justsuspension.com
www.autopartswarehouse.com
some use www.rockauto.com
also
woodysauto
for instance on a recent shock purchase
out of the above $130 was the highest price ( autoparts warehouse) and $87 was the lowest ( justsuspension) on the shocks I was pricing. The 43 bucks looks real good in my pocket

_________________
MUDD'S MOTORSPORT'S We do IFS lift installs ,
03 OVERLAND EDITION /Kilby-Skidrow-Mopar-4XGuard skids/ 2.5 inch TOTAL CONTROL JBA coilovers -JBA Arms/MOABS-31 FALKEN WILDPEAK AT3W / 4.10's etc, 04 Kilimanjaro Edition loaded, plus 05 KJ limited


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: What do I need? Basic lift to fit 245/70/R17.
PostPosted: Fri Dec 10, 2010 10:49 am 
Offline
LOST Member
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jun 28, 2010 8:51 am
Posts: 268
tommudd wrote:
have you tried looking at prices at the other places ? Can save a little coin that way
I buy a lot from
http://www.justsuspension.com
http://www.autopartswarehouse.com
some use http://www.rockauto.com
also
woodysauto
for instance on a recent shock purchase
out of the above $130 was the highest price ( autoparts warehouse) and $87 was the lowest ( justsuspension) on the shocks I was pricing. The 43 bucks looks real good in my pocket


I was just getting a rough estimate to how much the damages will be, but I'll definitely look into those sites. Thanks a lot!

_________________
2003 Jeep Liberty Freedom Edition
3.7L 5 speed manual
OME 927/948 w/Bilsteins
245/75/16 Goodyear Duratracs


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: What do I need? Basic lift to fit 245/70/R17.
PostPosted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 11:50 am 
Offline
LOST Newbie

Joined: Mon Mar 09, 2009 8:03 pm
Posts: 49
Well on this forum it seems like you get flogged for recommending anything but OME; however, there are some very good options out there. The BDS lift is a good alternative and is only 475 dollars including rear shocks. If you are set on OME, then remember buying things separate means shipping costs several times which adds to the price. When all is said and done you can save the butt pain of buying a bunch of stuff separate and just buy a frankenlift for the same price ( taking shipment fees into account).


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: What do I need? Basic lift to fit 245/70/R17.
PostPosted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 11:58 am 
Offline
LOST Member
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jun 28, 2010 8:51 am
Posts: 268
03Cactus wrote:
Well on this forum it seems like you get flogged for recommending anything but OME; however, there are some very good options out there. The BDS lift is a good alternative and is only 475 dollars including rear shocks. If you are set on OME, then remember buying things separate means shipping costs several times which adds to the price. When all is said and done you can save the butt pain of buying a bunch of stuff separate and just buy a frankenlift for the same price ( taking shipment fees into account).


Tell me more about this BDS lift please. I don't have time to look it up at the moment. (Working :? )

Thanks!

_________________
2003 Jeep Liberty Freedom Edition
3.7L 5 speed manual
OME 927/948 w/Bilsteins
245/75/16 Goodyear Duratracs


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: What do I need? Basic lift to fit 245/70/R17.
PostPosted: Sat Dec 11, 2010 12:51 pm 
Offline
Moderator / Lifetime Member
Moderator / Lifetime Member

Joined: Thu Jul 07, 2005 5:49 pm
Posts: 27226
Location: NOW Southeastern Ohio/ Tanzania
BDS keeps coming up as a cheap alternative
well cheaper is right , or some think
BUT
you will need to add front shocks to it as they do not offer any with their kit
SO
BDS kit for 495 or whatever
plus front shocks and you are right back in the same neighborhood really

for instance 4 OME springs from JeepinByAl 80 each =320
2 rear Bilstein shocks ( only looked at one place I deal with) 70 each Xs 2 = 140
320
140
=460

and no we don't flog for other suggestions :roll:
but what works good is the bottom line

_________________
MUDD'S MOTORSPORT'S We do IFS lift installs ,
03 OVERLAND EDITION /Kilby-Skidrow-Mopar-4XGuard skids/ 2.5 inch TOTAL CONTROL JBA coilovers -JBA Arms/MOABS-31 FALKEN WILDPEAK AT3W / 4.10's etc, 04 Kilimanjaro Edition loaded, plus 05 KJ limited


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: What do I need? Basic lift to fit 245/70/R17.
PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 7:35 am 
Offline
LOST Member
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jun 28, 2010 8:51 am
Posts: 268
tommudd wrote:
BDS keeps coming up as a cheap alternative
well cheaper is right , or some think
BUT
you will need to add front shocks to it as they do not offer any with their kit
SO
BDS kit for 495 or whatever
plus front shocks and you are right back in the same neighborhood really

for instance 4 OME springs from JeepinByAl 80 each =320
2 rear Bilstein shocks ( only looked at one place I deal with) 70 each Xs 2 = 140
320
140
=460

and no we don't flog for other suggestions :roll:
but what works good is the bottom line


Ok, I'll have to shop around for the cheapest prices.

Question though, if I do end up getting the BDS kit(if cheaper, etc.) how is the spring rates on the springs? Are they similar to OME or will they sag out over time?

Thanks!

_________________
2003 Jeep Liberty Freedom Edition
3.7L 5 speed manual
OME 927/948 w/Bilsteins
245/75/16 Goodyear Duratracs


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: What do I need? Basic lift to fit 245/70/R17.
PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 9:20 am 
Offline
Moderator / Lifetime Member
Moderator / Lifetime Member

Joined: Thu Jul 07, 2005 5:49 pm
Posts: 27226
Location: NOW Southeastern Ohio/ Tanzania
BDS will not be cheaper really trust me
Spring rate for the front springs is suppose to be 35 lbs heavier than the OME 927s though

_________________
MUDD'S MOTORSPORT'S We do IFS lift installs ,
03 OVERLAND EDITION /Kilby-Skidrow-Mopar-4XGuard skids/ 2.5 inch TOTAL CONTROL JBA coilovers -JBA Arms/MOABS-31 FALKEN WILDPEAK AT3W / 4.10's etc, 04 Kilimanjaro Edition loaded, plus 05 KJ limited


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: What do I need? Basic lift to fit 245/70/R17.
PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 9:55 am 
Offline
LOST Member
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jun 28, 2010 8:51 am
Posts: 268
Ok, so it all boils down to which ever one I can find a better deal on then. Thanks guys. :mrgreen:

_________________
2003 Jeep Liberty Freedom Edition
3.7L 5 speed manual
OME 927/948 w/Bilsteins
245/75/16 Goodyear Duratracs


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: What do I need? Basic lift to fit 245/70/R17.
PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 12:00 pm 
Offline
Lifetime Member
Lifetime Member

Joined: Mon Aug 24, 2009 12:40 am
Posts: 140
Location: Fort Irwin, CA
He just needs to mortgage his girlfriend and get JBA Adjust-A-Struts! :D :twisted:

_________________
The Barbie Rubicon
2 1/2" JBA Adjust-A-Strut front lift
JBA Upper Control Arms and Sway-Bar disconnects
Skyjacker 2 1/2" rear springs and shocks
Aussie Locker behind Riddler Armored Diff cover
Boiler brand roof rack
ARB bumper with XRC 8 winch
245/75R16s on Rubicon Moabs


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: What do I need? Basic lift to fit 245/70/R17.
PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 12:03 pm 
Offline
LOST Member
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jun 28, 2010 8:51 am
Posts: 268
Combat Truck Monkey wrote:
He just needs to mortgage his girlfriend and get JBA Adjust-A-Struts! :D :twisted:



Nah, I can manage without mortgaging my wife. :wink:

On serious note, with this little lift I won't need JBA upper control arms right?

_________________
2003 Jeep Liberty Freedom Edition
3.7L 5 speed manual
OME 927/948 w/Bilsteins
245/75/16 Goodyear Duratracs


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 33 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next

All times are UTC - 5 hours [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 5 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group. Color scheme by ColorizeIt!
Logo by pixeldecals.com