Check your pinch welds, please

Tokyojoe · **Posted:** Sun Mar 19, 2006 5:35 pm

Good day fellow KJ owners. I have a favor to ask of all of you. Yesterday, Rock Lizard, USAFCOP, and I were working to install his prototype Sliders onto my KJ when we discovered an interesting error(quality control build) on my KJ. We soon found the same error on USAFCOP and KW_AV8R KJ's. So that was three KJ's from different years or regions of purchase. I would ask of you to check your KJ and post a message in here if you do or do not have the same issue.

Here is the issue we encountered.

On my driver side, where you mount your sliders to the pinch weld, the pinch weld was in pretty good alignment. On the passenger side, the pinch weld was way off (1/4"). Sloppy work. See pictures.

Look all along the pinch weld to see if you have sloppy work on one side, both sides, or even for both sides.

DRIVER SIDE

PASSENGER SIDE

Can you see the sloppy difference in work?

This was an issue in mounting the template to drill holes on the passenger side.

I will probably grind down the excess hang.

THANKS ALL!

dano104 · **Posted:** Sun Mar 19, 2006 6:08 pm

I'm off by about 1/16th of an inch on both sides.

SchnellRS · **Posted:** Sun Mar 19, 2006 6:29 pm

both sides seem to be off by about 1/16th max.

JJsTJ · **Posted:** Sun Mar 19, 2006 7:33 pm

Most I have seen while mounting bars look like your pics. (and I have mounted quite a few sets of bars)

TnRebel · **Posted:** Sun Mar 19, 2006 8:10 pm

Mine is off by 1/16th on passg. side on an 06

Skyjump136 · **Joined:** Tue Jul 05, 2005 6:50 pm **Posts:** 1633

David, does the difference even matter when mounting up Marty's sliders? I know my pinch welds are different, but with the Boulder Bars it really didn't make a difference. It's just annoying more than anything.

Tokyojoe · **Posted:** Sun Mar 19, 2006 10:18 pm

Joel,

There is no issue with the KJ as a whole. We just think it is odd that this seems to be a common theme on KJ's. The holes that need to be drilled will land really low on the overall seam and the bit will hit where the two parts are located making it harder to drill. Marty was thinking about changing out the bar, for the passenger side, that bolts to the seam to a larger one so the bolts will be higher on the seam. Lessening possible issues if pasengers use the slider as a step (downward pressure) all of the time.

We wanted to verify if this was common and if Rock Lizard was going to make a change to his slider. It sounds like people with BB's had to deal with the same issue.

So far, it seems that 1/16" is the common difference while mine is 1/4" difference from drive to passenger side. That 1/4" is significant on hole placement for the bolts. I will have to careful drilling where the seams meet or just grind down the excess lip.

Since I am RL's proto/beta sliders tester, he wants to make sure there are no issues for his customers when they have to install them. Hence why I am posting this to see if he needs to change his design for the passenger side pinch weld bar before he makes slider #2.

Okay, I am babbling and repeating myself now.

white04kj · **Posted:** Mon Mar 20, 2006 5:13 am

I'm on my lunch break right now (3 am, I know :roll:

) so I can't really check right now, but tomorrow when it's light out, and hopefully not raining, I'll check for you.

spog · **Joined:** Sat Sep 03, 2005 8:26 pm **Posts:** 5

I have an 05 and have about 1/8th inch showing on both sides. My guess is that this is looking inconsistant, so how you plan around that might need a lot of imagination. Good Luck. :shock:

the1jferg · **Posted:** Wed Mar 22, 2006 9:46 am

Yes, mine are off on a 2002. Thats why I threw away the templates and clamped them in place while I drilled. I noticed it right away.

"I will probably grind down the excess hang." WHAT?

Creating a rust condition.

I seem to be the only one that put my plastic trim on ???? :lol:

HERE IS A SUGGEShin: Put pins in the sliders where you can pull them out for step rails or push them in for rock rails. Other companies are doing it.

Tokyojoe · **Posted:** Wed Mar 22, 2006 11:38 am

You shouldn't come on here and say "other companies are doing it" and not give examples. Post some pics and links to these companies.

the1jferg · **Posted:** Wed Mar 22, 2006 12:48 pm

I give enough examples.

Jeepjeepster · **Posted:** Wed Mar 22, 2006 3:24 pm

the1jferg wrote:

I give enough examples.

I see no examples? :?:

the1jferg · **Posted:** Wed Mar 22, 2006 5:36 pm

Whats the problem? I put no examples on this subject, I have put examples on many other subjects. I'm happy with my bars. If you want examples, Google it. I don't need to post a link to make myself credible. I ain't trying to satisfy yall, it was just a suggestion to stay competitive since the market has already changed. But hey, you ain't "Rock Lizard" so you shouldn't care anyways.

Jeepster...I said give, not gave

TokoJoe said: "I would ask of you to check your KJ and post a message in here if you do or do not have the same issue."

Since I'm a "fellow KJ owner" I answered that.

Good Day

Jeepjeepster · **Posted:** Wed Mar 22, 2006 7:22 pm

the1jferg wrote:

Whats the problem? I put no examples on this subject, I have put examples on many other subjects. I'm happy with my bars. If you want examples, Google it. I don't need to post a link to make myself credible. I ain't trying to satisfy yall, it was just a suggestion to stay competitive since the market has already changed. But hey, you ain't "Rock Lizard" so you shouldn't care anyways.

Jeepster...I said give, not gave

TokoJoe said: "I would ask of you to check your KJ and post a message in here if you do or do not have the same issue."

Since I'm a "fellow KJ owner" I answered that.

Good Day

Haha, someone is old and grumpy. :twisted:

What kind of bars do you have? Ill google it!

Tokyojoe · **Posted:** Wed Mar 22, 2006 7:57 pm

I wasn't trying to be mean, but you obviously tokk it that way. Perhaps I should have included a smiley at the end.

CaKJFreedom · **Posted:** Wed Mar 22, 2006 8:01 pm

Let's play nice. Points taken. And back to our regularly scheduled posting...

Edwin · **Posted:** Thu Mar 23, 2006 11:15 pm

the1jferg wrote:

Whats the problem? I put no examples on this subject, I have put examples on many other subjects. I'm happy with my bars. If you want examples, Google it. I don't need to post a link to make myself credible. I ain't trying to satisfy yall, it was just a suggestion to stay competitive since the market has already changed. But hey, you ain't "Rock Lizard" so you shouldn't care anyways.

Jeepster...I said give, not gave

TokoJoe said: "I would ask of you to check your KJ and post a message in here if you do or do not have the same issue."

Since I'm a "fellow KJ owner" I answered that.

Tokio, I reckon I'd leave that TEXAN alone. :wink:

Good Day

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