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 Post subject: Re: 2006 Liberty CRD CEL, no codes stored
PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2011 10:42 pm 
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Hey fellas, I found a motorhead worth his salt and he had the proper tool to pull the codes off my CRD. It blows my mind the stealership couldnt even get them to pop. Anyway, it turns out its the 2nd 3rd and 4th glowplugs. I ordered the replacements and started to peruse the forums for hints and tips on swapping them out and keep reading about the PCM needing reflashed. Now, Im trying to turn pennies into dollars here, does anyone know how much it costs (ballpark) for a stealer to reflash the PCM? If its remotely close to the GDE flash, I will probably go that route, but if its substatially cheaper, for pennies sake I will have to go to the rip off shop. Please fellas, any advice?

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 Post subject: Re: 2006 Liberty CRD CEL, no codes stored
PostPosted: Mon May 16, 2011 1:07 am 
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Hey fellas, I found a motorhead worth his salt and he had the proper tool to pull the codes off my CRD. It blows my mind the stealership couldnt even get them to pop. Anyway, it turns out its the 2nd 3rd and 4th glowplugs. I ordered the replacements and started to peruse the forums for hints and tips on swapping them out and keep reading about the PCM needing reflashed. Now, Im trying to turn pennies into dollars here, does anyone know how much it costs (ballpark) for a stealer to reflash the PCM? If its remotely close to the GDE flash, I will probably go that route, but if its substatially cheaper, for pennies sake I will have to go to the rip off shop. Please fellas, any advice?



Well you're not the only one running into the glow plug problem. I was getting a CEL and ultimately found it to be a bad glow plug. Then I got the bad news that I have to put in a whole new 5v system and do a $100 stealer re-flash. :furious: After searching a bit I think that the GDE tune will take care of the re-flash which makes it a $100 cheaper if I deduct what I would have paid the stealer to do it. I just emailed them and will confirm, but I think it will work and give me an excuse to get that Eco-Tune at the same time.


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 Post subject: Re: 2006 Liberty CRD CEL, no codes stored
PostPosted: Mon May 16, 2011 3:41 am 
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If you have the GP codes showing, then you need to replace them all with the new updated metal ones, unless you can find the old version plugs from somewhere. The old version glow plugs are no longer available from the dealer, you can only get the new revised version.

They coat about $160.00 + installation.

If your handy you may be able to do the installation yourself and save some cash, otherwise you will need to have it done and it takes approx. 2.5 hours worth of labor time.

Stealership labor for 2.5 hours = $250 - $300

Then you will need to reflash the ECU.

Dealer reflash = $95 + tax

GDE reflash = $450 but if you already have the tune, then the update is free, you only pay for shipping.

Hope this helps

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 Post subject: Re: 2006 Liberty CRD CEL, no codes stored
PostPosted: Mon May 16, 2011 1:33 pm 
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venture3082 wrote:
Sweet. I will do that as well while I am rootin' around in there. I've gotta get this friggin light off. Then I can move on to fixing the rear window regulator. The glass is being held up with sticky hooks. Looks a lot better than tape on the outside, thats for sure. Thanks again for your help, ya'll.


Just for grins, did you ask the dealer about the rear window regulator? It should/may be under warranty. My '06 was covered for both rear regulators and I am the second owner. In fact it was my local dealer here, in Los Angeles, who told me about it and remember, California could not sell CRD's as new vehicles, so these guys had never even seen one before mine. For some reason, few people on this forum wanted to believe me, but it turned out to be true Company-wide. Why spend the money and time, when it may well be a freebie?

And, it's worth reiterating... the GDE tune is worth every penny.

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 Post subject: Re: 2006 Liberty CRD CEL, no codes stored
PostPosted: Mon May 16, 2011 3:14 pm 
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2006's apparently are warranted for the regulators, 2005s are not but the warranty repair, as I understand it, uses the same or a variation of the same sorry plastic part that will likely eventually break. That said I've seen a rumor that recent warranty work has used the metal replacement by http://www.steigerperformance.com/. If so that's great but if not for the price I'd do the Steiger replacement and never worry about failure again. If you go that route the only thing I would add to Steiger instructions, you will understand when you see the instructions and parts, is to make sure the clip that holds the ball stud(s) in place is centered vertically behind the ball; that's the point of the discussion about bending the shaft of the ball stud so it's horizontal.

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 Post subject: Re: 2006 Liberty CRD CEL, no codes stored
PostPosted: Mon May 16, 2011 4:47 pm 
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