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 Post subject: New lift.
PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2011 8:07 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: New lift.
PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2011 1:53 am 
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Looks great! Any plans to raise the rear if the front doesn't settle?

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 Post subject: Re: New lift.
PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2011 10:33 am 
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Yes. Right now its just a frankenlift II premium kit with JBA UCAs. I figure Ill get on level ground (my driveway is not level at all) and measure and after a little bit Ill adjust and level her out. For now its a bit new to make corrections just yet, but my ultimate goal is 4.10s and 32s. Im hoping by the time I adjust or need to adjust Ill have the funds to finish the jeep completely.

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 Post subject: Re: New lift.
PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2011 11:08 am 
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All you need is 1 rear upper iso per side in the rear, about 1/2 hour and it will sit level or very close to it. Looks great by the way :JEEPIN:


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 Post subject: Re: New lift.
PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2011 11:13 am 
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All you need is 1 rear upper iso per side in the rear, about 1/2 hour and it will sit level or very close to it. Looks great by the way :JEEPIN:


Thanks! Yeah I should take pictures on level ground and measure before I do that, but Im sure it will be done.

BTW where are your pics at? :JEEPIN:

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 Post subject: Re: New lift.
PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2011 2:32 pm 
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All you need is 1 rear upper iso per side in the rear, about 1/2 hour and it will sit level or very close to it. Looks great by the way :JEEPIN:



So here is a stupid question. Are the rear ISO's dealer only items or where do you get them?

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 Post subject: Re: New lift.
PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2011 2:36 pm 
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Im assuming they are spacers that sit on either the top or bottom spring plate. But then again I have no idea or have never seen iso's before. I am interested in the idea of them and if they are cheap I may go get a pair and pop them in before I have to return the compressor.

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 Post subject: Re: New lift.
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BugginKJ wrote:
All you need is 1 rear upper iso per side in the rear, about 1/2 hour and it will sit level or very close to it. Looks great by the way :JEEPIN:



So, same question on the ISO's asked of liquidxit2. Are they a dealer only item or where can you get them?

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 Post subject: Re: New lift.
PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2011 4:54 pm 
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I would suggest getting two rear isolaters for each side, for a total of three on each side (one factory, two extra). That is the maximum you can use. I have the Frankenlift, I only put one extra rear isolater per side, for a total of two (one factory, one extra), and I don't think it was level enough. I eventually put three total per side.
If you don't plan on putting an ARB/Winch up front, then you would probably need two.

You can get the isolaters for the rear at the dealership, but they might need to order them for you.
Or you can order them online.

All three sites seem to be exactly the same:

So, two Isolators plus shipping came out to be:
http://www.wholesalemopar.com $29.24
This site calls them "Spring insulator, liberty, upper"

http://www.moparpartsamerica.com $28.55
Follow this path to get to them;
-Rear Suspension
-Suspension components
-Spring
-Upper insulator
-Upper insulator Back

http://www.chryslerpartsdirect.com $29.30
*A note about http://www.chryslerpartsdirect.com - They charge you shipping after they send them out, so if you want to know exactly what you're paying use one of the other sites.

Each one was like 9$ plus shipping. So the total came out to ~30$ for two.
At the dealer I think they are like 15$ each, but you save shipping, in the end I think its the same price. Maybe you can convince the dealer to give it to you for cheaper.

(This pricing/site information is from a post of mine from July 2010)

ANOTHER Option is LTT's (Long_Tall_Texan) rear spacer (basically the same as the daystar.) He would be better to ask questions.

Here it is installed. (Not my Jeep)
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 Post subject: Re: New lift.
PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2011 4:58 pm 
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Oh and you don't really need spring compressors, I thought I did too, but after doing a couple of lifts you can just put the rear on jack stands and used a bottle jack, or event the stock scissor jack to flex the rear suspension. (JUST BE CAREFUL)
That is how I installed my extra rear isolaters.

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If you can't get the spring in that way, take out the bumpstop, then replace it with the spring in place.

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PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2011 5:47 pm 
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The rear isolator's are what go on top of your rear springs. You can get them at JBA (Jeepin BY Al) for $12.65 each and they are MOPAR isolator's. To get my rear springs in I just use a very long bar (a old tanker bar) and had my daughter stand on the end of it, a very long pry bar or 2x4 would also work. I also use a very thin film of grease on them so ease "complaints" from the springs and or isolator's. I also put the new one's up first because your old ones already have a wear pattern in them from the springs which provide a good surface for your new springs to seat in to.
edit: JBA part number is.... JBA-52088707AA , the last part starting with 5 is the MOPAR part # :wink:


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 Post subject: Re: New lift.
PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2011 6:19 pm 
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Sweet! I figured it was either the top or bottom piece on one of the perches. Ill probably pick 4 up here soon and start with 2 on each side as I dont think Ill be able to afford an arb for a very long time if at all. Probably just do a TJ bumper setup.

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PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2011 8:21 pm 
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Good info Dean as usual.

He should also cut a notch in the front bump stops so he wont lose/rip off the grease/zerk fitting when they both make contact.

I know you got a picture of that some where Dean! :mrgreen:

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VMKJCRD wrote:
Good info Dean as usual.

He should also cut a notch in the front bump stops so he wont lose/rip off the grease/zerk fitting when they both make contact.

I know you got a picture of that some where Dean! :mrgreen:

Haha, I try my best!

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PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2011 11:14 pm 
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BugginKJ wrote:
The rear isolator's are what go on top of your rear springs. You can get them at JBA (Jeepin BY Al) for $12.65 each and they are MOPAR isolator's. To get my rear springs in I just use a very long bar (a old tanker bar) and had my daughter stand on the end of it, a very long pry bar or 2x4 would also work. I also use a very thin film of grease on them so ease "complaints" from the springs and or isolator's. I also put the new one's up first because your old ones already have a wear pattern in them from the springs which provide a good surface for your new springs to seat in to.
edit: JBA part number is.... JBA-52088707AA , the last part starting with 5 is the MOPAR part # :wink:



Thanks for the info. Next little project to the Goat.

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 Post subject: Re: New lift.
PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2011 12:47 pm 
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Well I measured on level ground and I'm at 23.5 front and 21.2ish in the rear and measuring the all j way I'm 14 rear and 15 front. Looks pretty decent, but ill probably do an iso each side in the rear very soon.Image

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