glider wrote:
All you need to know about the new Liberty is that it is going to be just a jeepy as a dodge Caliber... er, I mean, a Patriot/Compass econobox.

This is exactly the OPPOSITE of what the head man at Jeep told MotorTrend magazine. I think a lot of people here are going to be shocked when the 2013 Liberty rolls out and actually stomps the KJ/KK into the ground on off-road trails and interior capacity.
I hope youre right. From all the reading I have done (not a lot but enough to be disgusted) Fiat is pushing jeep more towards show then go. I even heard after a certain time period most if not all jeeps will be fully independent suspension.