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 Post subject: Re: 2013 Jeep lineup?
PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2012 12:53 pm 
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I saw an interview with the Jeep CEO from Easter Jeep Safari where he said the number 1 customer request is for a diesel option in the Rubicon. Once the emissions align there's no reason for them not to.


I wouldn't be surprised if it's only offered in the high-end packages, which means $35,000 - $45,000.

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 Post subject: Re: 2013 Jeep lineup?
PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2012 2:23 pm 
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Does anyone really think that the new Liberty is going to be a 4 door hatchback? That is just a test mule for the drivetrain. The body is just something that was thrown on there.

Yes I do believe that it is going to look like that. You don't 'throw' a body on a unibody vehicle.... :?

And the finished product will probably look like this, the Nissan Qashqai:

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 Post subject: Re: 2013 Jeep lineup?
PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2012 12:12 am 
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Well I was hoping that the patriot being axed was just a rumor as I LOVE it over the compass by alot. Hell I was even considering getting one if gas got much worse a few years from now, but being axed maybe a clean diesel will emerge.


X2 I like the looks of the Patriot. It has good fuel economy, is trail rated, and resembles the Cherokee XJ. I was hoping that Jeep would keep the Patriot, maintain the traditional styling, and add a solid transmission mated to a diesel that achieved 30 mpg. I’d buy it. :rockon:

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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2012 12:32 pm 
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We got the Pat with a 2.0 VW diesel... which also comes in the Jetta/Tiguan.

...there must be an anti-diesel lobby overthere... :evil:

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We got the Pat with a 2.0 VW diesel... which also comes in the Jetta/Tiguan.

...there must be an anti-diesel lobby overthere... :evil:


Yeah, I'm not sure what all the real issues are. I've read that higher diesel prices are keeping some auto manufactures from following through. Others say that cars with the diesel option don’t sell as well as their gasoline partners do. Some say that new gasoline/hybrid technology is the way of the future. VW told a friend of mine that they can’t keep up with current product of diesel applications overseas; therefore, they don’t expand their diesel applications in the United States since the majority of U.S. customers buy gasoline over diesel. I’ve also read that the United States general culture considers automobiles as throw away items. Because of this ideology, Americans keep a car for 3-6 years and trade it in, hence why people don’t want to invest into a higher priced diesel option. Other than the love for diesel, many Americans don’t see the short term or longer term benefit. Unless you tow an RV or other heavy loads, there’s not a huge market for diesel.

Could this mentality change over time? Some say yes, others say no. With the current global economy, you would think people would look at buying vehicles differently. But as an expert in human behavior and Gifted Education, I can tell you that many Americans are not logistical thinkers.

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