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 Post subject: Re: 2005 6-speed Renegade, Transmission Problems
PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 3:13 am 
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I thought it would be nice to have the 6 speed , but I guess I'll be happy with mine if the six speed has problems.
That is a lot of money though only 2,000 less that I paid for my jeep.

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 Post subject: Re: 2005 6-speed Renegade, Transmission Problems
PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 6:36 pm 
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Mine would pop out of reverse and grind. I had to hold it in HARD or it would kick out. Reading the TSBs, I concluded that somebody had been a spazz and attempted stuffing it in reverse at highway speed; bending the internal linkage assembly. Not hard to do really, considering you have to keep tension on the shifter as you draw it back from 5th. Too much tension and off you go into reverse. :o

I bought a used transmission from a wrecker for $1000 with a 100 day guarantee. (Two different wreckers had one).

I did the clutch and changed the fluids at the same time. Took me about 2 days in my driveway with hand tools. $1500 for a transmission, clutch, service manual CD, and fluids really isn't that bad when you think about what a shop would charge.

Now I have my old transmission I can rebuild if I have future problems. The linkage assembly was about $400-500 from chrysler last time I checked.

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 Post subject: Re: 2005 6-speed Renegade, Transmission Problems
PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 10:13 pm 
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All this is nuts 4500$ Rebuild on a NSG370? Holy AAMCO had you big time..... Buddy of mine just swapped his tranny in the KJ for one from a TJ Rubicon as they are Identical for a Junk yard cost of 600$ and that also gave him a 12-month 10,000km warranty.


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 Post subject: Re: 2005 6-speed Renegade, Transmission Problems
PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2012 7:49 pm 
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There are at least two different bellhousing patterns amongst the various Jeep engines. So do your homework... don't just assume any NSG370 will fit.

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 Post subject: Re: 2005 6-speed Renegade, Transmission Problems
PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 6:11 pm 
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RED_KJ_666 wrote:
All this is nuts 4500$ Rebuild on a NSG370? Holy AAMCO had you big time..... Buddy of mine just swapped his tranny in the KJ for one from a TJ Rubicon as they are Identical for a Junk yard cost of 600$ and that also gave him a 12-month 10,000km warranty.


Like I said before, junkyard transmission != rebuilt transmission, not by a long shot.

And yeah, comparing different vehicles and transmissions means nothing - they aren't the same, so the cost isn't the same.

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 Post subject: Re: 2005 6-speed Renegade, Transmission Problems
PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 6:17 pm 
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Mine would pop out of reverse and grind. I had to hold it in HARD or it would kick out. Reading the TSBs, I concluded that somebody had been a spazz and attempted stuffing it in reverse at highway speed; bending the internal linkage assembly. Not hard to do really, considering you have to keep tension on the shifter as you draw it back from 5th. Too much tension and off you go into reverse. :o


Yeah, I would love to call anyone that does that a spazz, but this transmission has no lockout at all, so it's quite easy to do that accidentally. 5th to 4th isn't the issue nearly as bad as 4 to 6 or anything else. Accelerate in a low gear, get to highway speed, and try to put it directly to 6. Nope!

In the future, I guess A). nobody else is allowed to drive my jeep but me, and B). I will ONLY shift into 6 from 5!

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I bought a used transmission from a wrecker for $1000 with a 100 day guarantee. (Two different wreckers had one).

I did the clutch and changed the fluids at the same time. Took me about 2 days in my driveway with hand tools. $1500 for a transmission, clutch, service manual CD, and fluids really isn't that bad when you think about what a shop would charge.

Now I have my old transmission I can rebuild if I have future problems. The linkage assembly was about $400-500 from chrysler last time I checked.


Given how common these problems are (and that I had the same problem even at a low mileage), I don't see the point in spending $2k to end up with the same problem. Ah well, maybe playing the guarantee game would work, but I suspect I'd hear "It's a use transmission, it's got a bit of wear, don't worry about it", and find out 2 years later that it's toast just like my first one. I like the idea of Brandy-New-Parts. :-)

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 Post subject: Re: 2005 6-speed Renegade, Transmission Problems
PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 6:21 pm 
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If your transmission is in that bad of shape it still could be cheaper to rebuild a used one. I thought about doing that on mine.

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 Post subject: Re: 2005 6-speed Renegade, Transmission Problems
PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2012 7:09 pm 
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Se7enLC wrote:
Given how common these problems are (and that I had the same problem even at a low mileage), I don't see the point in spending $2k to end up with the same problem. Ah well, maybe playing the guarantee game would work, but I suspect I'd hear "It's a use transmission, it's got a bit of wear, don't worry about it", and find out 2 years later that it's toast just like my first one. I like the idea of Brandy-New-Parts. :-)


Used parts don't bother me. And I know the warranty is good in this case :wink: . It simply kills me what new stuff cost - especially in Canada.

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 Post subject: Re: 2005 6-speed Renegade, Transmission Problems
PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 2:20 pm 
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Update: they finally got the parts in (a full 2 weeks after I dropped it off). One of the parts is meant for a 5 speed.

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