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 Post subject: OME vs Ironman 4x4 lift for a CRD
PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:34 am 
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I have been wanting to lift my CRD almost since I got it and think I may be soon close to doing that as the shocks are starting to feel worn now the I am at 73,000 something miles.

I seen that TomMudd changed his lift to the IronMan. Jeepin by Al sells it and the parts are just a little cheaper than OME kit, and there are Diesel rated springs just like OME but I do not know how they compare. I looked on the company's site and did not see anything about the weight these are made for and I thought the OME springs for the CRD were rated at 500 pounds, what about the ironman?

if anyone knows anything more to help figure out the difference between the two brands I'd love to see what info you have and I am sure others might benefit from it in the future as well. Thanks in advance for the help.

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 Post subject: Re: OME vs Ironman 4x4 lift for a CRD
PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 9:29 am 
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if anyone knows anything more to help figure out the difference between the two brands I'd love to see what info you have and I am sure others might benefit from it in the future as well. Thanks in advance for the help.


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I did ask the question myself on another forum, but didn't get an answer back...

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 Post subject: Re: OME vs Ironman 4x4 lift for a CRD
PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 11:14 am 
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Can't say how the CRD version is
but the gasser springs and shocks ride very well. firm but not overly harsh ride.
You will not get the same amount of lift out of the Ironman figure on 2-2.5 inches also their rear shocks are only stock length I'm running them right now but flex is very minimal of course
will have to switch out before I go off roading end of the month :banghead:
Overall I like the Ironman so far

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 Post subject: Re: OME vs Ironman 4x4 lift for a CRD
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Thanks Tom are you going to pare the long OME shocks with the Iron man rear coils or something else? I still want to know the load rating on the CRD spring.

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 Post subject: Re: OME vs Ironman 4x4 lift for a CRD
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Thanks Tom are you going to pare the long OME shocks with the Iron man rear coils or something else? I still want to know the load rating on the CRD spring.


Not sure yet, have some OME 132Ls here and also the other spring over shocks I have been running so depends on my mood :ROTFL: :wink:
Regarding the CRD Ironman they say from 50 to 100 kg more
so not sure what total will be , downloading the PDF right now
so will be doing some light reading later today

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 Post subject: Re: OME vs Ironman 4x4 lift for a CRD
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I need to download that too.... the sales stuff on the site really is not that detailed. that or I just want to know too much. I just got my taxes done( yeah I know late) and I will have almost enough to get the OME spring lift kit. I did want to do A arms too so that its all done and done good first time. what stinks is if I had the cash now JBA is going to be in york for the Jeep show and could bring it with so I could get out of shipping charges. but the are only 2 hours from home and I can make a detour on the way to camping to get it maybe,

So I will not get 2 - 2.5 inches from iron man that almost rules that out

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 Post subject: Re: OME vs Ironman 4x4 lift for a CRD
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Hey Tom,
With the Ironman suspension on a stock 06 gasser with 47k on the odo, what trim packer would you recommend for the front for an even front/rear lift.

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 Post subject: Re: OME vs Ironman 4x4 lift for a CRD
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How the HELL does he sell anything? His 2.5 lift for a CRD is 4200.00!!!!!

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 Post subject: Re: OME vs Ironman 4x4 lift for a CRD
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CRD Joe wrote:
How the HELL does he sell anything? His 2.5 lift for a CRD is 4200.00!!!!!

Holy Moses!



What are you looking at ?
The most expensive / ultimate kits?
He has OME kits for 750 or so
He has the Ironman for less than 650
Why is it people only look at one thing a dealer sells and say its too much :shock: :shock: :?

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 Post subject: Re: OME vs Ironman 4x4 lift for a CRD
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acweller wrote:
Hey Tom,
With the Ironman suspension on a stock 06 gasser with 47k on the odo, what trim packer would you recommend for the front for an even front/rear lift.

You don't have to use any trim packers
they just up the spring rate is all
on stock nothing after market I would install it without any or just maybe one 10 mm per side

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 Post subject: Re: OME vs Ironman 4x4 lift for a CRD
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tommudd wrote:
CRD Joe wrote:
How the HELL does he sell anything? His 2.5 lift for a CRD is 4200.00!!!!!

Holy Moses!



What are you looking at ?
The most expensive / ultimate kits?
He has OME kits for 750 or so
He has the Ironman for less than 650
Why is it people only look at one thing a dealer sells and say its too much :shock: :shock: :?



Hello Thomas!

JBA 2.5" Silver lift CRD 2300.00
JBA 2.5" Gold 2400.00 CRD
JBA 2.5" Platinum 4100.00 lift CRD

JBA 4" Silver 3300.00 CRD
JBA 4" Gold 4900.00 CRD
JBA 4" Platinum 5950.00 CRD

JBA 6" 6400.00 CRD

Uh, ONE thing???

These prices arent rational.

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 Post subject: Re: OME vs Ironman 4x4 lift for a CRD
PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 1:05 am 
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I'm pretty sure Tom isn't talking about those kits...you can get 4 springs and 4 shocks and be done for way less than a grand and get your 2.5 "
Of course when you add the
Adjust-A-Strut front coilover system,
Al's Gen 4.5 A-arms
2.5" 5100 Bilstein rear shocks w/ remote reservoirs 
And so on, the price is going to go up, just like any lift kit. But those are luxury items.


I think there needs to be a $ complaining thread... Everyone wants to play and not pay.... No wonder companies won't take on the KJ/KK. They get on here and see everyone who owns one complains about the prices of products that are available. (Even when they are reasonable prices) If you want a cheap hobby go bowling.

Let's just move on and let the OP have his thread back...
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 Post subject: Re: OME vs Ironman 4x4 lift for a CRD
PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 11:55 am 
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I didnt mean to hijack this thread. I dont have a problem paying 1400.00 for a kit like the Frankenlift. That arguably is a premium kit. But good God, those prices rediculous. You can lift an IFS Chevy for less than that!

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 Post subject: Re: OME vs Ironman 4x4 lift for a CRD
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Cool story Bro! If you didn't mean to hi jack then stop posting in it. You've said the same thing three times.... No one cares that you don't like the prices. Start your own thread and complain.

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 Post subject: Re: OME vs Ironman 4x4 lift for a CRD
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CRD Joe wrote:
tommudd wrote:
CRD Joe wrote:
How the HELL does he sell anything? His 2.5 lift for a CRD is 4200.00!!!!!

Holy Moses!



What are you looking at ?
The most expensive / ultimate kits?
He has OME kits for 750 or so
He has the Ironman for less than 650
Why is it people only look at one thing a dealer sells and say its too much :shock: :shock: :?



Hello Thomas!

JBA 2.5" Silver lift CRD 2300.00
JBA 2.5" Gold 2400.00 CRD
JBA 2.5" Platinum 4100.00 lift CRD

JBA 4" Silver 3300.00 CRD
JBA 4" Gold 4900.00 CRD
JBA 4" Platinum 5950.00 CRD

JBA 6" 6400.00 CRD

Uh, ONE thing???

These prices arent rational.



Those prices are for his premium lifts that his company designed. he claims them to be the very best that they will lift your Liberty and make it ride like a Mercedes SUV. I can not afford one of those nor can most members here. we are talking about other product that they sell that are similar to Frankenlift or rocky road and use some of the same parts

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 Post subject: Re: OME vs Ironman 4x4 lift for a CRD
PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 9:14 pm 
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I'd go with the OME - I like the 490 lb/inch front spring
they ride great - and about $750 or so from anywhere.. (I tend to buy from All-J's)

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 Post subject: Re: OME vs Ironman 4x4 lift for a CRD
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pretty sure im going with the OME CRD HD springs OME struts, medium duty rear spring and OME long shocks.


I see all J sells rear bump stops brake line relo kits and other stuff how important are those things? what else should I need for a good lift that rides and drives nice

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 Post subject: Re: OME vs Ironman 4x4 lift for a CRD
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brake line relocation is just a 3.5-4 inch piece of metal with bends on either end, or at least the ones I make for the lifts here , easy to make yourself.
Yes on yours you do need it
Rear bumpstops 2 per side hockey pucks work great and cheap 6-8 bucks for all 4

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 Post subject: Re: OME vs Ironman 4x4 lift for a CRD
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I know someone that plays hockey so I could get some used ones that are less than perfect maybe free. Only thing is if I pay someone to install it they may not want to use them

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Just installed Ironman lift on my 03 KJ CRD, lifted it over 3" from the sagged height I was at. She now sits at 2" above standard 02 height. Rides great and sits with the stock rake. You must make sure you have the JEEP014C front springs before you start, I was inially received the ones for a "gasser".
It's nice to have some suspension travel!


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