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 Post subject: Timing belt kit with water pump from Greece on Ebay
PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 4:03 pm 
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Any one have experience with the timing belt kit sold on Ebay for $398 out of Greece?

I'm at 86K and about to buy one.

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 Post subject: Re: Timing belt kit with water pump from Greece on Ebay
PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 4:26 pm 
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Why don't you post up the link so we can offer feedback on it?

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 Post subject: Re: Timing belt kit with water pump from Greece on Ebay
PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 4:30 pm 
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/271106113078?ru ... 26_rdc%3D1

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 Post subject: Re: Timing belt kit with water pump from Greece on Ebay
PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 4:37 pm 
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Water pump appears to be a "GRAF" brand, I have no experience with them and therefore cannot make a recommendation about them.

I have no Idea on the rollers.

I get shop pricing on parts so an OEM water pump locally costs me $200, OEM idlers $50 each, and the gates belt can be had for less than $100 shipped, which adds up to about $400 stateside.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 4:47 pm 
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GRAF is Italian. Italian water pump on an Italian engine makes sense. The Belt is Goodyear and the important parts of the rest are the bearings. I'm going for it.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 5:35 pm 
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AFAIK, Graf is a good pump. I used them on a Volvo D24 engine some time ago and had no complaints. It may very well be that Graf is the OE pump on the VM. It'd be nice to compare a Mopar (VM) pump and a Graf.

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 Post subject: Re: Timing belt kit with water pump from Greece on Ebay
PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 9:44 pm 
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GRAF is Italian. Italian water pump on an Italian engine makes sense. The Belt is Goodyear and the important parts of the rest are the bearings. I'm going for it.


Ya, but just because its italian doesn't mean its quality.

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AFAIK, Graf is a good pump. I used them on a Volvo D24 engine some time ago and had no complaints. It may very well be that Graf is the OE pump on the VM. It'd be nice to compare a Mopar (VM) pump and a Graf.


It may be the OEM pump, it would be interesting to compare it and see if it appears to be from the same casting, or if graf just makes one like a1-cardone does.

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 Post subject: Re: Timing belt kit with water pump from Greece on Ebay
PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 10:41 pm 
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Graf and Saleri are both Italian and OE suppliers of pumps I think. I would bet one of these are OE to VM.

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This is the same guy that sells the Rocker/Lifter kits for ~$400 for all 16.

His name is Alex, and I've sent him a link to our little forum and asked him to come say hello. Hopefully his English is good enough.

I'm getting ready to do a timing belt and rockers/lifters so I may just use him for all of it.

He sure sells a lot of CRD stuff... He must have some type of hook up.

http://stores.ebay.com/Get-Car-Parts-Cheaper/Chrysler-parts-/_i.html?_fsub=2830647018&_sid=691713198&_trksid=p4634.c0.m322

That's his EBAY store.

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 Post subject: Re: Timing belt kit with water pump from Greece on Ebay
PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 6:16 pm 
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Hexus wrote:
This is the same guy that sells the Rocker/Lifter kits for ~$400 for all 16.

His name is Alex, and I've sent him a link to our little forum and asked him to come say hello. Hopefully his English is good enough.

I'm getting ready to do a timing belt and rockers/lifters so I may just use him for all of it.

He sure sells a lot of CRD stuff... He must have some type of hook up.

http://stores.ebay.com/Get-Car-Parts-Cheaper/Chrysler-parts-/_i.html?_fsub=2830647018&_sid=691713198&_trksid=p4634.c0.m322

That's his EBAY store.


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 Post subject: Re: Timing belt kit with water pump from Greece on Ebay
PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 9:24 pm 
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It may be the OEM pump, it would be interesting to compare it and see if it appears to be from the same casting, or if graf just makes one like a1-cardone does.


It would appear to be only the front half, i.e. no housing, and hence the o-rings. Maybe the guy from IDParts can chime in here as he sells Graf pumps for other applications.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 02, 2012 5:20 pm 
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Sir Sam wrote:
It may be the OEM pump, it would be interesting to compare it and see if it appears to be from the same casting, or if graf just makes one like a1-cardone does.


It would appear to be only the front half, i.e. no housing, and hence the o-rings. Maybe the guy from IDParts can chime in here as he sells Graf pumps for other applications.


Yes it does, looks like it comes with a new large oring for sealing between the halves, and a smaller one for sealing against the block?

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 Post subject: Re: Timing belt kit with water pump from Greece on Ebay
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Alex has better pics on his store:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/JEEP-CHEROKEE-L ... 337d4aa16e

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 1:05 am 
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The impeller looks different than the OEM ones I have seen, looks like a cadmium coating.

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