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 Post subject: Re: Finally lifted my CRD, take a look!
PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 11:16 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Finally lifted my CRD, take a look!
PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2012 11:43 pm 
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I know 8 hours sounds like a lot to me to but that is about what MT. Zion of road said the number of labor hours would be @ $79.50/hour so he is still cheaper. I am with you thinking it is not an 8 hour job but then he has not done it before and nor have I. there is removing the struts and setting them up with the new springs compressing them and the a arms new bump stops and all to put in too.... Are you saying anyone that has done suspension work should be able to do it in 4 hours? so should I keep looking for an installer or what


Shops have to make payroll and over head , But 8 hours is over what it should take.
Its not rocket science, you unbolt a spring that has a shock inside, you reinstall a spring with a shock inside .
I'm sure most any shop has done that before
But then its their shop
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 Post subject: Re: Finally lifted my CRD, take a look!
PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 12:52 am 
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I know 8 hours sounds like a lot to me to but that is about what MT. Zion of road said the number of labor hours would be @ $79.50/hour so he is still cheaper. I am with you thinking it is not an 8 hour job but then he has not done it before and nor have I. there is removing the struts and setting them up with the new springs compressing them and the a arms new bump stops and all to put in too.... Are you saying anyone that has done suspension work should be able to do it in 4 hours? so should I keep looking for an installer or what

By the book time it is 1.6 hours to remove and install the front coilovers with a added 0.6 hours to disassemble and reassemble the coilovers,so 2.2 book hours there.It's 1.8 hours book time to remove install both upper control arms,now with removing/installing the coilovers there is some overlap labor and any honest shop will knock that down to about 1.2 hours.It's 0.3 hours book time to remove/install the front bumpstops.It's 1 hour book time to remove/install the rear coils which includes the shocks,add 0.3 hours to install new rear bumpstops.Then it's what ever the place charges for a alignment.So by the book time not including the alignment it should be 5 labor hours not taking into account the new parts are lift parts and no alignment.


In reality it takes 2-3 hours with anyone with half a brain and the correct tools not including the alignment.


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 Post subject: Re: Finally lifted my CRD, take a look!
PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 10:56 am 
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Hate to keep beating a dead horse here...but can anyone provide a picture that shows all three isolators stacked up on top of a coil spring?

I assume these are the same as the ones I bought from my local Jeep dealer to replace the old ones when I did the lift, right?

http://jeepinbyal.com/prod-Rear_coil_sp ... r-705.aspx


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 Post subject: Re: Finally lifted my CRD, take a look!
PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 12:26 pm 
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Those you linked to are the lowers, you need two extra per side uppers.

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tommudd wrote:
Those you linked to are the lowers, you need two extra per side uppers.


They say they will work for upper or lower. Is that not the case?


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 Post subject: Re: Finally lifted my CRD, take a look!
PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 1:17 pm 
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Uppers and lowers are different
Trust me I have both hanging in the garage right now
uppers have a smaller center hole as well
uppers 52088707AA
lowers 52128524AA

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after looking closer what you linked to is for KKs

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2012 2:28 pm 
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mikey1273 wrote:
I know 8 hours sounds like a lot to me to but that is about what MT. Zion of road said the number of labor hours would be @ $79.50/hour so he is still cheaper. I am with you thinking it is not an 8 hour job but then he has not done it before and nor have I. there is removing the struts and setting them up with the new springs compressing them and the a arms new bump stops and all to put in too.... Are you saying anyone that has done suspension work should be able to do it in 4 hours? so should I keep looking for an installer or what

By the book time it is 1.6 hours to remove and install the front coilovers with a added 0.6 hours to disassemble and reassemble the coilovers,so 2.2 book hours there.It's 1.8 hours book time to remove install both upper control arms,now with removing/installing the coilovers there is some overlap labor and any honest shop will knock that down to about 1.2 hours.It's 0.3 hours book time to remove/install the front bumpstops.It's 1 hour book time to remove/install the rear coils which includes the shocks,add 0.3 hours to install new rear bumpstops.Then it's what ever the place charges for a alignment.So by the book time not including the alignment it should be 5 labor hours not taking into account the new parts are lift parts and no alignment.


In reality it takes 2-3 hours with anyone with half a brain and the correct tools not including the alignment.



TJKJ thanks for the break down on the labor I knew I was getting told too much. there is now way I'd pay full going market labor rate for 8 hours on a 5 hours job. the other thing was the Truck and Jeep shop said $200 for an alignment. its been a few years since I needed one but I don't think it should be that much. I last paid $60-70 for one I'm guessing $100 now?
there shouldn't be much difference in doing the job with lift parts vs. stock when it comes to labor its the same process, only the 790 coils might be harder to work with than stock.
I'd try it myself but I know I don't have all the correct tools esp. spring compressor, no garage to work in and its quite cold now, plus I have not done this type of work before so it would take me a while to be sure I was doing it correctly due to rechecking my work over and over.

I going to ask around more after xmas but if I don't find better I'm going with the guy that was going to do the work at home.

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 Post subject: Finally lifted my CRD, take a look!
PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2012 12:31 am 
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Alignment is like $70 at the dealership. If you're being charged $100+ for an alignment, you're being ripped off. Firestone offers a lifetime alignment for one flat fee (if I remember correctly from reading other posts on here).

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I think for installing new lift, upper a-arms and alignment...you shouldn't pay over $500 and that's high price end IMO.

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