Pictures of your KK in the snow Long Island 2013

mawlkrawler · **Posted:** Mon Feb 18, 2013 10:35 am

Haha it's cool I'll take some pix today. By the time I got her unstuck it was rly dark out. I'm glad I learned they don't hold well before I went wheeling deep in the woods. That would have sucked to get stuck in the woods with no hooks.

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kayadog · **Posted:** Mon Feb 18, 2013 11:03 am

You need to be really careful where you attach recovery points on a Liberty. It needs to be a trailer hitch or tow hook using the factory mounting point in the rear or something that uses the factory mounting points in the front. Look how beefy the brackets are that come with the factory hooks.

Improperly mounted hooks/shackles can take somebodies head off when they break loose or do serious damage to your Jeep. The link I posted above uses the factory front holes to mount d ring shackles safely. Another option is to mount a front receiver hitch which also can be used to mount racks. I'm happy with the factory hooks.

Ted15 · **Posted:** Mon Feb 18, 2013 4:00 pm

Even with the factory hooks, if they're installed with the M bolts, they'll pull right out with a couple hard yanks. They came from the factory with stud plates which are way stronger. I installed a Detoures backbone winch mount with a smittybilt XRC 10 winch when mine pulled out. You wouldn't believe how well that things attached. It even has 2 places for D Rings. :2cents:

At The Helm · **Posted:** Mon Feb 18, 2013 4:15 pm

Also a good recovery snatch strap that stretches will cut down on the shock load drastically.

mawlkrawler · **Posted:** Mon Feb 18, 2013 4:47 pm

So the oem tow hooks come with a plate in addition to the bolt? How does that work?

Also I did use a yellow recovery strap. I didn't use chains.

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At The Helm · **Posted:** Mon Feb 18, 2013 5:08 pm

Here's how i do it. These nut strips slide inside the unibody openings and inside the crossmember. Bolts go in the tow hook holes from the bottom and holes get drilled in the crossmember.

Arctic2012 · **Posted:** Mon Feb 18, 2013 6:07 pm

Had a blast in the snow here on the Island too! Wish I was able to pose pics! Did some snow mountain climbing and all different - no stopping the arctic

kayadog · **Posted:** Mon Feb 18, 2013 8:03 pm

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a256/ ... abs006.jpg

This is what the front d-rings look like on a KJ.

Ted15 · **Posted:** Mon Feb 18, 2013 10:31 pm

mawlkrawler wrote:

So the oem tow hooks come with a plate in addition to the bolt? How does that work?

Also I did use a yellow recovery strap. I didn't use chains.

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Here ya go bud.
viewtopic.php?f=104&t=69850

mawlkrawler · **Posted:** Wed Feb 20, 2013 1:53 am

Brb going to buy those. It was entertaining to see a piece of my bumper shoot 100 ft in the air. My friend actually caught it too lol. I will defiantly install those hooks with those brackets. I hope i didnt do too much damage so I cant mount them.

Gageraid · **Posted:** Wed Feb 20, 2013 8:04 am

Mawlkrawler, is the picture you first posted where you were stuck? How hard was the person yanking the Lib?

mawlkrawler · **Posted:** Wed Feb 20, 2013 9:02 am

He went rly slow. Tbh. I was kinda surprised. I pulled a guy out 2 weeks ago with them. And ya the first pic is where I got stuck

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Gageraid · **Posted:** Wed Feb 20, 2013 10:56 am

Scares me that is seems you all weren't doing anything wrong, but indeed ripped out the tow hook. Makes me not even want to chance it.

kayadog · **Posted:** Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:47 pm

"I drilled through the metal under the plastic bumper. Found out today ( the hard way) that it wasn't a very good anchor point. They ripped through the metal bumper when I got stuck. "

If I'm reading this right they weren't properly installed using the 3 factory holes and proper hardware.

Gageraid · **Posted:** Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:53 pm

Hopefully I don't ever have to use my tow hooks (dual front and one in the rear), but how strong (weak) are the M bolts?

kayadog · **Posted:** Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:58 pm

As far as I know the rear isn't a problem. It uses nutserts(sp?). It's the non-factory front Mopar hooks with m-bolts that are suspect, although I've never had an issue with mine. I've always gotten out with a slow steady tug and never whaled on them.

Gageraid · **Posted:** Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:02 pm

kayadog wrote:

As far as I know the rear isn't a problem. It uses nutserts(sp?). It's the non-factory front Mopar hooks with m-bolts that are suspect, although I've never had an issue with mine. I've always gotten out with a slow steady tug and never whaled on them.

I'm sure it's been covered, but if the front tow hook(s) are installed from the factory, do they use M bolts or something else?

infernicus · **Posted:** Wed Feb 20, 2013 6:11 pm

mawlkrawler wrote:

[...]Also I did use a yellow recovery strap. I didn't use chains.

Was it a Recovery strap? Or a Towing Strap? The yellow ones you find at AutoZone and HomeDepot are not stretchy like a Recovery or Snatch strap. Towing straps have no 'give', where as a recovery strap is stretchy which puts less stress on the vehicles and more power where needed.

Gageraid wrote:

I'm sure it's been covered, but if the front tow hook(s) are installed from the factory, do they use M bolts or something else?

This post explains the difference -

Ted15 wrote:

Here ya go bud.
viewtopic.php?f=104&t=69850

infernicus · **Posted:** Wed Feb 20, 2013 6:20 pm

Here is a cool video of a KJ (BennyMigs) pulling out a stuck Range Rover on the beach.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4x_8mNp0SQ

Here is another video of me pulling a stuck XJ out of a mud hole with my KJ. (With the front tow hook - it never moved)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zs2X6ZsTVys

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